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From: Greg Kraus
Date: May 14, 2014 1:17PM

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Karl Groves < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Also, as you mentioned, the chat pod pretty much just
> barfs out all the text all at once and without much "structure", so to
> speak.
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This is from some testing I did about 2 years ago with Connect, so it
might not work anymore, but to make the chat more manageable with JAWS
I found the following.

1. If the virtual cursor is on, and if I am focused in the text box to
compose a text message, if I arrow up it starts reading the last
message first. The only weird catch with this technique seems to be
that I have to first tab through all of the chat UI components before
it will work.

2. Once I read the last message in the chat history, assuming the
virtual cursor is on, I can set a JAWS placemark there, and when more
messages come in later, I can simply jump back to that placemark then
arrow down to read all of the messages that have come in since the
last time.


> Elluminate, which I would have considered as an alternative, is now part of
> Blackboard and, as far as I know, can't be used on its own anymore. Either
> way my experience with Elluminate hasn't been recent enough to be
> comfortable with using it.

For future reference, we use Blackboard Collaborate (formerly
Elluminate) at NC State University. It can still be used as a
standalone product.

Greg
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Greg Kraus
University IT Accessibility Coordinator
NC State University
919.513.4087
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http://go.ncsu.edu/itaccess

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Léonie Watson < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Karl Groves wrote:
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> "Adobe Connect has some issues of its own. One SR user mentioned a keyboard trap in some pods, which require you to resort to work arounds in order to get to other pods. Also, as you mentioned, the chat pod pretty much just barfs out all the text all at once and without much "structure", so to speak."
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> For any keyboard users reading this, you can extricate yourself from this by using Control f6 to cycle between the different pods, and Control space to move to the menubar at the top.
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> Léonie.
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> @LeonieWatson Carpe diem
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> From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Karl Groves
> Sent: 14 May 2014 19:00
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Cc: Léonie Watson
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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> Greg:
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> We decided to go with Adobe Connect for a couple of reasons:
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> First, the other major players in this space, WebEx and GoToMeeting/ GoToWebinar have very significant accessibility issues, the likes of which are really problematic.
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> Adobe Connect has some issues of its own. One SR user mentioned a keyboard trap in some pods, which require you to resort to work arounds in order to get to other pods. Also, as you mentioned, the chat pod pretty much just barfs out all the text all at once and without much "structure", so to speak.
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> Elluminate, which I would have considered as an alternative, is now part of Blackboard and, as far as I know, can't be used on its own anymore. Either way my experience with Elluminate hasn't been recent enough to be comfortable with using it.
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> The same goes for other options. There are other meeting products out there, such as LucidMeetings, which have taken positive steps for accessibility. I actually have a LucidMeetings account. Unfortunately, LucidMeetings is far better suited for meetings than Webinars, and doesn't have the robust VOIP capabilities of handling as many concurrent users as Connect can.
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> Ultimately, despite its flaws, Adobe Connect was overall the better choice. Both for accessibility and for applicability.
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> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Greg Wocher < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
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> Hello,
> I am curious as to why you are using Adobe Connect? The college where I attend my classes online uses this software and I have found it extremely problematic to use. For instance in the chat pod I can not read individual chat messages. It wants to read all of them at the same time. I am also unable to reliably read anything in the attendee pod. This is using JAWS or NVDA. Also this is with the adobe connect plug in installed. This question is just out of curiosity because I would like to be able to use adobe connect more proficiently.
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> Thanks,
> Greg Wocher
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> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
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> On 5/14/2014 11:02 AM, Léonie Watson wrote:
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> Everyone,
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> To celebrate Global Accessibility Awareness Day, The Paciello Group will be
> holding 24 one-hour webinars on all things accessibility. The sessions range
> from beginner-to-advanced and are aimed at everyone from executives to web
> developers.
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> Sessions start at Midnight, GMT, on May 15th. Our online schedule at
> http://inclusivedesign24.org/ should do the automatic conversion for you. If
> not, you can enter the time(s) at the following website and get the relevant
> information for your timezone:
> http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
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> To join the meeting, go to
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> https://my.adobeconnect.com/id24/
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> Follow the event with the dual hashtags #ID24 #GAAD
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> Léonie.
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> If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before:
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> Test your connection:
> https://my.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
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> Get a quick overview: http://www.adobe.com/products/adobeconnect.html
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> Karl Groves
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> @karlgroves
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
> Phone: +1 410.541.6829
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> What is this thing and what does it do?
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