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Re: Would pressing enter on a radiobutton in a <form > with onsubmit event be called under 3.2.2 ?

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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Sep 10, 2014 5:02PM

My conclusion after some thought is that this is not a WCAG violation.
We always assme that users, be they users of assistive technology or
not, understand the patterns of interaction with the web (i.e. that
you use the spacebar to check radiobuttons).
And I do not see a way to call this under 2.1.1 (the element is
keyboard accessible), or 3.2.2 (as jOnathan pointed out, the user
initiates this action).
See also: http://tjvantoll.com/2013/01/01/enter-should-submit-forms-stop-messing-with-that/
I do not necessarily think that screen readers are as bothered by
people not using the form element as the author claims, they are
pretty smart applications and know to work around that, but this
article has at leat led me to the initial decisiontaht this is not an
accessibility violation.
I can be convinced otherwise if necessary.
Cheers
-Birkir



On 9/10/14, Birkir R. Gunnarsson < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Suzie
>
> I am not sure, this happens with keyboard only (not with a screen
> reader, at least not consistently).
> It is impossible to see the state of the radiobutton when the form is
> submitted.
> I believe it gets checked but fro the client side I cannot be 100% certain.
>
>
> On 9/10/14, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO
> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> Birkir,
>>
>> Should I understand from this that the radio button is being checked and
>> then the form is submitted?
>>
>> Susie Stanzel
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir R.
>> Gunnarsson
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:59 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Would pressing enter on a radiobutton in a <form >
>> with onsubmit event be called under 3.2.2 ?
>>
>> Oh cool, I will go and find that particular phrase.
>> I want to be sure I have a consistent approach to these types of things
>> going forward, and make the right decision.
>> Thanks
>> -Birkir
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/14, Jonathan Avila < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>> User errors are still considered user initiated. I know the user
>>> agent
>>> accessibility guidelines specifically call similar scenarios out.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>> On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:51 PM, "Birkir R. Gunnarsson"
>>>> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Greetings everyone!
>>>>
>>>> In keyboard only testing I realized that if you press enter on a
>>>> radiobutton in a form with a submit button and onsubmit attribute
>>>> triggers the submition of that form.
>>>> radiobuttons should only be checked using the spacebar key but it is
>>>> quite likely that some users may try to check radiobuttons using the
>>>> enter key.
>>>>
>>>> Would this be a violation of 3.2.2 (on input), or just expected
>>>> browser behavior?
>>>> I tested in Firefox and IE, same result.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> -B
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