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From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Nov 19, 2014 2:29PM

Birkir and Don,
If you don't agree with changes (or anything else) in the WCAG documents I encourage you to submit public comments.
AWK

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From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 3:22 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] link only saying "click here"

I strongly agree. The rational of this makes no sense to me at all!

-----Original Message-----
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:18 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] link only saying "click here"

Andrew

This is an unfortunate development though.
Any assistive technology application can choose to announce programmatic context, either upon user request or in response to a user verbosity setting.
Just because Jaws is the only screen reader that has bothered to support preceeding heading as a programatic context, should not force the group to essentially remove it as a useful technique.
This is, in my view, a much clearer programmatic context than being contained in same paragraph or sentence, for instance, and on par with using row / or column headers in a table to provide programmatic context.
That being said, I don't want to steer this discussion way off course, and I am sure there were similar discussions on-going when that particular decision was made.
I am just a little surprised at the rationale.
I try first to bug the assistive technology vendors until they give up, give in, and implement the durn feature I want .. granted it does not always work. ;) Thumbs up for NVDA for being open and responsive to any issues being filed.
-Birkir


On 11/19/14, Andrew Kirkpatrick < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Birkir,
> The Group made the decision to move the technique H80 to be advisory
> as a result of support among assistive technologies being limited to
> JAWS. If a developer were to define what they need to rely on for
> accessibility support to be limited to JAWS then they might still make
> use of H80 in complying with WCAG.
> AWK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir R.
> Gunnarsson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:28 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] link only saying "click here"
>
> Hi
>
> I thought a recent decision meant that preceeding heading was not
> considered programatically determinable context.
> I am not saying it shouldn't be, just that I heard a WCAG group made
> this decision.
> Thanks
> -Birkir
>
> On 11/18/14, Andrew Kirkpatrick < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> Susan,
>> Depends on the context of the link. Check out
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20140916/F63 for more
>> examples.
>> AWK
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 3:09 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] link only saying "click here"
>>
>> I would think this would fall under 2.4.4.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mark [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:35 PM
>> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] link only saying "click here"
>>
>> Op 29-10-14 om 16:14 schreef Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO:
>>> Hi Listers,
>>>
>>> Here is the link for the description of this. My tester tells me
>>> this is a tripple A requirement. I can't believe this. Is there some
>>> other double A level requirement which could be sited?
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20140916/F84
>>>
>>>
>> there is SC 2.2.4 which says a link should not be ambiguous and is a
>> level A req.
>> Mark
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