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From: Tyllick,Cliff S (DADS)
Date: Jun 29, 2016 12:22PM


How does the use of ligatures affect people with low moderate vision, dyslexia, or other conditions that make text recognition a challenge?

Cliff

Cliff Tyllick
EIR Accessibility Coordinator
Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services (DADS)
512-438-2494
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-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Olaf Drümmer
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 8:47 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Calibri font issues

Maybe JAWS needs to be fixed?

In earnest:
InDesign will usually write out ligatures just fine. It will insert information that serves reliable mapping from ligatures to the underlying individual characters. It would be a sign of lack of respect for typographical quality to not use ligatures where they make sense.

That much said: so far we have not established the actual reason(s) for the reported issue. I’d be happy to look at a sample document, if clear and specific descriptions are provided as to what the actual problems are, and exactly where they can be located in the resp. sample PDF.

Olaf

> On 29.06.2016, at 15:37, Ilana Gordon < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> Thanks Bevi. As designers we know and understand the process. But when
> remediating documents from outside sources where we don't have control and
> the original is unavailable, is there a magic wand that can fix these
> issues? We have not found anything yet and the only recourse is to search
> the PDF and fix manually if possible.
>
> What I'm trying to figure out is why Calibri works in some docs and not in
> others. Is it a Microsoft issue? Apparently this is a documented bug with
> Acrobat.
>
> Any insight is appreciated.
>
> Ilana
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Chagnon | PubCom < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
>> Re ligatures:
>> Generally many aren't recognized by screen readers, regardless of the font.
>>
>> Re gibberish:
>> That is common when fonts aren't embedded in the PDF. Also affects
>> ligatures and bullets.
>>
>> Sounds like this PDF was incorrectly made from InDesign--one of the few
>> programs that uses ligatures. So uncheck the ligatures option in your
>> styles.
>>
>> We and our clients use Calibri (and its sister ClearType fonts such as
>> Cambria) without problems. The "tuner" on user's computer can cause
>> problems, but the font itself is like any other Unicode/OpenType font. Has
>> very good readability and legibility for both print and screen.
>>
>> -Bevi Chagnon
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>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
>> Behalf Of Ilana Gordon
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 1:01 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Subject: [WebAIM] Calibri font issues
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> For a while now we have been encountering font issues with documents that
>> have been produced using Calibri. Very often the content panel shows
>> gibberish and the ligatures will not read properly in JAWS.
>>
>> Has anyone had similar issues and are there fixes if the original document
>> is not available?
>>
>> Ilana
>>
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>> >> >> >> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Ilana Gordon
> President
> Word Wizards, Inc
> 8609 2nd Avenue, Unit 406-B
> Silver Spring, MD 20910
> *v.*301-986-0808 *fax.*301-986-0809
> *Direct: 240-380-2639*
> www.wordwizardsinc.com
> > > >