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From: Jim Homme
Date: Aug 19, 2016 12:17PM

Hi Jamous,
Looks like I stand corrected.

Thanks.

Jim


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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Jamous, JP
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 2:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Using iPhone and iPad with VoiceOver - comparing apples to apples?

I thought you had an iPad.

I checked with a buddy who is A11Y expert and told me that there is no difference between iPad and iPad Mini. The screen size and resolution are the only difference.

When my sighted wife used it, she couldn't notice any difference between my Mini and her 12 inch iPad.




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Jean-Pierre Jamous
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Jim Homme
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 12:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Using iPhone and iPad with VoiceOver - comparing apples to apples?

Hi Jamous,
I have an iPhone 5S. I don't have an iPad.

Jim


=========Jim Homme,
Accessibility Consultant,
Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
412-787-8567,
<EMAIL REMOVED>
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Jamous, JP
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 1:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Using iPhone and iPad with VoiceOver - comparing apples to apples?

Are you running the iOS default settings?




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Jean-Pierre Jamous
Digital Accessibility Specialist & Developer UI Accessibility Team

The only limitations in life are those we set for ourselves

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-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Jim Homme
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 12:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Using iPhone and iPad with VoiceOver - comparing apples to apples?

Hi Jamous,
You might get differences between the Mini and the bigger iPad. I say might because of the screen size and how things get laid out. I have not experienced this yet.

Jim


=========Jim Homme,
Accessibility Consultant,
Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
412-787-8567,
<EMAIL REMOVED>
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions
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-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Jamous, JP
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 1:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Using iPhone and iPad with VoiceOver - comparing apples to apples?

Marc,

I did not experience it first-hand, but we do test iPad under large view and iPhone under small view.

Yes, iPad handles things differently than the iPhone. That is why Voiceover functions differently.

I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but I just bought an iPad Mini 2 for testing purposes. I have not had a chance to play with it.

I just noticed that the iPad splits the view into a parent and child window. In other words, you can have "Settings" opened on the left side of the screen, while the list under "General" opened on the right side of it.

Personally, I don't like that view, but for sighted folks, it is nice.




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Jean-Pierre Jamous
Digital Accessibility Specialist & Developer UI Accessibility Team

The only limitations in life are those we set for ourselves

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-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Marc Solomon
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 11:00 AM
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Subject: [WebAIM] Using iPhone and iPad with VoiceOver - comparing apples to apples?

To the mobile accessibility gurus on this list,

I recently came across an example where the user experience of interacting with a particular web form was substantially different between an iPhone and iPad Air. This form has three <select> inputs. On the iPhone (iOS 9.3.3), you can use VoiceOver to interact with the first <select> input with no issue. But, the second and third <select> inputs while announced could not be activated. When I tested the same form using an iPad Air (same iOS version as iPhone), I didn't have any issues with the second and third <select> inputs.

In addition, the gestures used for navigating through the <select> input's options differed on the devices. On the iPhone, swiping up moves focus to the next option. On the iPad, swiping to the right was required to navigate to the next option.

Has anyone experienced this type of inconsistency between an iPhone and iPad on the same web page? Is there a reason why the VoiceOver gesture interaction is different for <select>/pop up button inputs?

Thanks,
Marc