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From: Jon Gunderson
Date: Jul 28, 2003 7:19AM


Wayne,
I don't think we should require people to buy assistive technologies to be
able to access content.

If I can get built-in zooming features for changing the size and colors of
text content, why should I have to get and learn Zoomtext or Magic?

If I have a physical impairment and want to navigate the headers of a
document to reduce keystrokes to a select a link, are you suggesting I
should by JAWS or WINDOWS EYES to get that functionality in Internet
Explorer, just because it is compatible with assistive technologies?

I hope that the expectations of section 508 are not just compatibility with
assistive technologies, which usually means compatibility with screen
readers leaving out a lot of other people with disabilities without
features that benefit them.

One of the goals of web accessibility (and universal design) is to design
resources to web standards so that the widest range of technologies can be
used to access the content. Users should have a choice of the browsers
they use, so they can use the browser that best meets there needs.

Jon

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At 01:43 PM 7/25/2003 -0700, Wayne Chenoweth wrote:
>I was surprised at your comment that "There is no one browser that will meet
>the needs of every disability." In light of Section 508 compliance there
>should be, or we should not purchase it in federal and now California
>entities.
> I would rather you added after your statement, "but assistive technology is
>available to work with the browser to get there." This is what 508
>requires of
>applications. If a browser does not support AT, it is neither accessible nor
>508 compliant. The Opera features are nice, but if it only works with
>some AT,
>I can't recommend it myself.
>
>Wayne Chenoweth
>
>
> --- Jon Gunderson < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > I do not believe it supports Microsoft MSAA technologies used by screen
> > readers like JAWS and WINDOW EYES. But it has other great features for
> > people who are not blind. For example:
> >
> > 1. Keyboard support
> > a. Independent navigation of form controls (TAB and Shift+TAB) and
> links (A
> > and Q keys)
> > b. Navigation of header elements (W and S)
> > c. List of links (Control+J)
> > d. Toggle images on and off (G)
> > e. Toggle between user and author styling (Control+G)
> > f. Continuous increase and decrease font size (+ and - on numeric keypad)
> > more in the help menu....
> >
> > 2. Built-in user styling options (look in View/Style menu)
> >
> > 3. Supports custom user style sheets
> >
> > There is no one browser that will meet the needs of every disability. But
> > for built-in, out of the box features Opera is one of the best and my
> > favorite.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > At 11:41 AM 7/25/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Hi
> > >How well does it work with JAWS?
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jon Gunderson" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > >To: < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > >Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:30 AM
> > >Subject: Re: Opera -evaluating Web accessibility software
> > >
> > >
> > > > Opera is a great browser in general. I suggest people try it.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.opera.com
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > > At 11:18 AM 7/25/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > >Opera is also excellent for prescribing user designated style sheets.
> > > > >Please visit .....
> > > > >
> > > > >http://www.jp29.org/wapl.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >..... for further discussion of this.
> > > > >
> > > > >James Pickering
> > > > >http://www.jp29.org/
> > > >
> > > > Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
> > > > Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
> > > > Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
> > > > MC-574
> > > > College of Applied Life Studies
> > > > University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
> > > > 1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL 61820
> > > >
> > > > Voice: (217) 244-5870
> > > > Fax: (217) 333-0248
> > > >
> > > > E-mail: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > > >
> > > > WWW: http://cita.rehab.uiuc.edu/
> > > > WWW: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
> > > >
> > > >
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> > Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
> > Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
> > Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
> > MC-574
> > College of Applied Life Studies
> > University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
> > 1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL 61820
> >
> > Voice: (217) 244-5870
> > Fax: (217) 333-0248
> >
> > E-mail: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> >
> > WWW: http://cita.rehab.uiuc.edu/
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Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
MC-574
College of Applied Life Studies
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL 61820

Voice: (217) 244-5870
Fax: (217) 333-0248

E-mail: <EMAIL REMOVED>

WWW: http://cita.rehab.uiuc.edu/
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