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Re: JAWS 18 "no more headings at level X in this section"

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From: Lucy Greco
Date: Apr 14, 2017 10:38AM


one quick corection the faster way to get to your serch is to hit q for
main and then 3 smile

Lucia Greco
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On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Joseph Sherman < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> Great explanation, thanks.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
> > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 11:11 AM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] JAWS 18 "no more headings at level X in this
> section"
> >
> > This stems from the special way in which Jaws handles heading structure.
> > Jaws will stop looking for your desired level heading either if it hits
> the end of the
> > page or if it hits a heading at a lower level.
> > In other words:
> > If you have the following heading structure:
> >
> > h2 - welcome
> >
> > h3 heading in header
> >
> > h1 main content
> >
> > h2 search results
> >
> > h3 search result 1
> >
> > h3 search result 2
> >
> > Imagine you are on the h2 heading at the top of the page and press "3",
> you will be
> > taken to the h3 heading in the header.
> > Now pressing any number other than 1 will cause Jaws to announce "no more
> > headings in this section", because the next heading is an h1.
> > Jaws is correct in a way, if we use heading structure to mark sections.
> >
> >
> > If you press "1" at this point, you are placed on the "h1" heading.
> >
> > If you press "3" with focus on the h1 heading, you will get a "no more
> headings in
> > this section" announcement again, because Jaws started looking, found an
> "h2"
> > (search results" and stopped.
> >
> > If you press "2" you move to search results.
> > If you now press "3" you can move between search results.
> >
> > If you want the fastest way to get from top of this page to search
> results using
> > heading navigation in Jaws you have to press "1" "2" and then "3" (main,
> search
> > results, individual result).
> >
> > NVDA does not not split the page into sections, it just looks for the
> next h3 heading
> > on the page regardless of context.
> >
> > I am not sure if you can change Jaws settings to behave that way.
> > Oddly, I like the Jaws's approach (maybe it is habit).
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/14/17, Steve Faulkner < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > > Hi Joseph,
> > >
> > > it would be helpful if you provided:
> > >
> > > - JAWS version
> > > - browser and version
> > > - code example
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > SteveF
> > > Current Standards Work @W3C
> > > <http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2015/03/current-standards-work-at-w
> > > 3c/>
> > >
> > > On 14 April 2017 at 15:06, Joseph Sherman < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm on a page with a bunch of regions and headings. The top of page
> > >> is the banner and search region. The main region has search results
> > >> which are labeled H3. When the page loads the cursor is at the top of
> > >> the page in the banner region. I press "3" to go to the first h3
> > >> search results, but JAWS says ""no more headings at level X in this
> > >> section".
> > >> Why does JAWS give this unhelpful response instead of going to the h3
> > >> in the Main section? When I press "3' in NVDA, it goes directly to
> > >> the first search result, h3.
> > >>
> > >> I find this happens in a number of pages and web applications and is
> > >> very annoying to have to first be in the correct region, and then be
> > >> able to go to the heading that I want. Sometimes this happens for h1
> > >> in the main region if I am in the banner region. Is there a setting
> > >> or something I can change in JAWS?
> > >> Joseph
> > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >> > > >>
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > >
> >
> >
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