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From: John Foliot
Date: Jun 2, 2017 4:07PM

The use of role="region" is non-valid and non-conformant, although in
practical terms it is benign - today.

If you can remove it, do so, but don't stay late on a Friday evening to do
it - make it a regular maintenance task if you can.

At least, that would be *my* strategy...

JF

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Sandy Feldman < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> I've been using role="region". I just double-checked and realized it's in
> the works and not one of the accepted terms. Should I cut that out? Or
> carry on on the theory it doesn't do any harm?
>
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_the_region_role_to_
> identify_a_region_of_the_page
> Sandy
>
>
> On 2017-06-02 4:38 PM, John Foliot wrote:
>
> Hi Sandy,
>
> If you are talking about ARIA landmark regions (https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-
> aria/roles#landmark_roles), there is only a fixed taxonomy of region
> terms:
>
> - application
> - banner
> - complementary
> - contentinfo
> - form
> - main
> - navigation
> - search
>
> While it would be perhaps interesting to allow for an expansion of those
> landmarks (or the ability to create custom ones), we really can't do that
> today.
>
> > Would headings with those names be better?
>
> Yes,
> absolutely.
>
>
> However dealing with the "which should come first"
> question remains: First-time users should (MUST?) get the instructions
> first, but by your 58th log-in I suspect getting those instructions would
> be, at a minimum, useless, and at a maximum outright frustrating (with I
> suspect a majority being "annoyed"). Not that non-sighted users couldn't
> "deal" with always getting instructions first (it *is* trivial to jump
> ahead, and as you note the good use of Headings would certainly facilitate
> page navigation and orientation).
>
> JF
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Sandy Feldman < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
>> Would creating ARIA regions be useful here? Would it be easier to skip
>> the instructions and login if instructions were in a region labelled "login
>> instructions" and the login was in a region labelled "login"? Would
>> headings with those names be better?
>>
>> Sandy
>> On 2017-06-02 9:41 AM, John Foliot wrote:
>>
>> Specific to Joseph's question:
>>
>> Not seeing the actual design in question, I still will suggest that for
>> maximum usability (including sighted keyboard-only users) putting the
>> repeat action (Log-In) ahead of the (presumably) one-time, or limited-time
>> use of "Instructions" actually makes sense over the aggregate: non-sighted
>> users won't need to hear the instructions **every** time they arrive at that
>> page, only the first time (or perhaps the first few times - but the log-in
>> process will be, and become, a rote activity over time).
>>
>> (Think of this in terms similar to "skip-nav"... skipping over repeated or
>> non-needed content to get to the "meat" of the page in question - here, to
>> log-in.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> John Foliot
> Principal Accessibility Strategist
> Deque Systems Inc.
> <EMAIL REMOVED>
>
> Advancing the mission of digital accessibility and inclusion
>
>
>


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John Foliot
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Deque Systems Inc.
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