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From: Jennifer Sutton
Date: Aug 22, 2017 12:49PM

Hello:


I don't remember this ever *not* being the case. What I do remember is
that this issue (related both to the play button and the iframe) has
been raised *many* times, over the years, on a wide variety of email lists.


For the most recent example of which I am aware, see this, which I just
posted to WebAIM in the last few days:


http://adrianroselli.com/2017/08/inaccessible-youtube-embeds.html


And then this thread on the WebAIM list that resulted:


http://webaim.org/discussion/mail_thread?threadƒ12


And then, this one, too:


http://webaim.org/discussion/mail_thread?threadƒ12


In the end, as best I can tell, the key is to make all this more visible
to Google to see if they will fix this. My hope is that the extensive
bug report I cited above may result in action, but I encourage others to
follow up with Google directly about this, such as by providing feedback
via this form:


https://www.google.com/accessibility/get-in-touch.html


Or via any other channels you know of that might reach the right people.
I know this has already been discussed on the Google Accessibility email
list, so perhaps that will help, too.


In general, having watched our industry for more than fifteen years, we
seem to spend a lot of time talking amongst ourselves on this list (and
others), but so often, it seems to me (at any rate) the right people
never see.


For my part, I surely do my best to pull items from this list and get
them visible where they may make a difference, rather than spending my
time working out wonky work-arounds. I suppose we need both kinds of action.


As a "bonus," with thanks to Birkir et al, here's this that might help
folks at least with filing some kinds of bug reports; as far as I know,
it's still accurate. It's from CSUN 2016:


http://whoseline.a11yideas.com/bugs.html


And then, there's this from TPG (in case there are differences):

https://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2014/06/filing-bugs/


But these both focus on browser and screen readers; obviously, it would
be great to have more "direct lines" to companies.


Perhaps it would help to build a Git page somewhere to identify as many
ways/places as we know to file accessibility-related bugs, so there'd be
a one-stop shop. If such exists, I'd love to know of it.


Tweeting "into the void" rarely seems to result in much action, either,
as best I can tell.


If anybody got this far, I'd also point out this resource, from WAI,
directed toward people with disabilities, specifically. I and others did
our best, but I never thought this got the visibility it deserved:


http://www.w3.org/WAI/users/inaccessible


Best,

Jennifer



On 8/22/2017 11:03 AM, Alan Zaitchik wrote:
> I don't know if this has always been the case and I never noticed until
> now, or if something has changed.
> I was just testing some html pages that include a YouTube video player,
> and the Play button has no title or aria-label or anything. JAWS announces
> it as 'unlabelled one button'. NVDA says 'Button'. I could swear that in
> the past I have heard them say 'Play button' or some such label.
>
> We are using the following link in our HTML page:
> <iframe class="media" preload="auto"
> src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/87pKNfPnzug?ecver=1&amp;rel=0"
> aria-label="Video Player" frameborder="0"></iframe>
>
> That seems normal enough.
>
> Why no label for the main Play button? Is there something we are missing?
> Has the Youtube player changed recently so that no label is provided for
> the Play button.
>
> I am talking about the button indicated by <button
> class="ytp-large-play-button ytp-button'> deep inside the YouTube iframe.
>
> How can I get JAWS and NVDA to say something like 'Play button' ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> A
>
> > > List archives athttp://webaim.org/discussion/archives
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