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Re: Jaws dropping the ball on ARIA landmarks?

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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: May 29, 2018 10:56AM

Thanks Bryan

I'll sign in and add my comments later today.
I agree with the discussion that alllandmarks whose name has been
explicitly set by the author should be exposed by default and I will
add that the banner andcontentinfo regions of the page should also be
exposed in that setting, regardless whether the role is explicitly
added or inherited from HTML5 (<header> and <footer>).
I see room for configuration for unlabeled nested landmark regions,
e.g. articles sections, complementary regions an general purpose
regions landmarks with no accessible name.



On 5/29/18, Bryan Garaventa < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Hi,
> There is an open issue about this at
> https://github.com/FreedomScientific/VFO-standards-support/issues/57
>
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> Bryan Garaventa
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> Aah, thanks Jonathan! I was not aware of this setting.
> Incidentally, navigation landmarks are announced in this setting as well (in
> addition to the main landmark) but nothing else.
> I believe the header and footer landmarks should always be announced,
> regardless of setting, but I can see the argument for other landmark region
> types.
>
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> On 5/29/18, Jonathan Avila < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> Hi Birkir, this is the new web verbosity setting which is set to
>> medium by default. These landmarks are only announced in the highest
>> value.
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>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 11:48 AM
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>> Subject: [WebAIM] Jaws dropping the ball on ARIA landmarks?
>>
>> I recently upgraded to Jaws 2018 and noticed that most ARIA landmarks,
>> including the banner, contentinfo and region and complementary
>> landmarks, with or without an accessible name) , are now ignored.
>> I am seeing this in IE, Chrome and Firefox.
>> I will create an issue for this as a Beta Tester and in the Jaws web
>> compatibility bug tracker, but I think this is a large enough concern
>> that I should post it here for awareness and feedback.
>> One of my favorite Jaws features has been its handling of landmark
>> regions, announcing their beginning and end when pages are explored in
>> browse mode, enabling users to jump past them with the > key.
>> But in Jaws 2018 only the main region shows upin browse mode. Other
>> regions are available in the regions sortcut jawsKey-alt-r but are not
>> displayed in bows mode, including the banner and contentinfo.
>> This is a vastly inferior experience as the boundries of those regions
>> are not properly communicated this way, only the start, plus the
>> shortcut is not intuitive.
>>
>> This makes landmark regions a lot less useful as a Jaws user
>> navigation aid.
>> I know landmarks are amuch under utilized navigation aid for screen
>> reader users (I am concerned by this as they are much more consistent
>> than headers on wellformed pages and are an easy consistency indicator
>> to code (landmark region roles can generally be added to templates).
>>
>> Whatever the reason, I think removing support for landmarks is not the
>> way to go.
>> I am hoping this is a bug, though I don't understand why such a bug
>> was not noticed and filed earlier. If it is a conscious decision I
>> think it needs to prompt a larger discussion of the purpose of
>> landmarks in general.
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