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From: mhysnm1964@gmail.com
Date: Jun 22, 2018 12:35AM

Support Tim and others on this. Most users will use the defaults.

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From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of Tim Harshbarger
Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2018 10:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] [EXTERNAL] Re: Preferred mode for JAWS users?

I also use manual.

However, I agree that it is better to test using the default settings.

I suspect most people (including screen reader users) don't alter the default settings of their apps. I suspect this is the case because most people only learn enough to use an app to do what they need to do.

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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 8:45 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [WebAIM] Preferred mode for JAWS users?

I think the more advanced the user, the more likely they are to use manual mode. I"m pretty sure that goes for software in general.
Advanced users bother to change the defaults.
I want control over when Jaws sends a click event vs. when it passes the keyboard events through to the browser so I go full manual.
Don't expect your typical user to prefer that though.
In terms of web design, you shouldn't even think about this, just focus on coding things correctly and let the screen reader take care of when to enter interactive mode vs. browse mode.



On 6/19/18, Jonathan Avila < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> Although Semi-Auto and Manual are still available, I'm not sure why
>> anyone would prefer them.
>
> If you have improperly coded pages you may need to use manual or semi.
> For example, an improperly coded ARIA based drop down where you want
> to use arrow keys to move up and down in a custom list but JAWS kicks
> you out of forms mode when down arrow is pressed. I've also run into
> issues with getting stuck in edit fields in the past but that seems to
> be much improved.
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> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf Of Steve Green
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:22 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Preferred mode for JAWS users?
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> In all our user testing I have never seen anyone use anything other
> than Auto Forms Mode since it was introduced in JAWS 10. Some people
> who used JAWS prior to that might prefer Manual Forms Mode but Auto
> Forms Mode was well received in my experience.
>
> Although Semi-Auto and Manual are still available, I'm not sure why
> anyone would prefer them.
>
> Steve Green
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
> Robert Fentress
> Sent: 19 June 2018 14:38
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: [WebAIM] Preferred mode for JAWS users?
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> Does anyone have a sense of what mode most JAWS users prefer: Manual
> Forms Mode, Auto Forms Mode, or Semi-Auto Forms mode? I had heard a
> while back from one JAWS user that experienced users of the software
> preferred Manual, but that was just one person and was quite a while
> ago, so I wonder if that is really true, and if it may have changed as
> sites increasingly use ARIA composite widgets. Any data on this anywhere?
>
> Best,
> Rob
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