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From: David Engebretson Jr
Date: Oct 12, 2018 1:48PM

That's interesting. Thanks for the link.

What I really want is for sighted people to see (at all times) where focus
is in the screen reader. If focus is on the virtual cursor somewhere off of
the visual presentation then they are confused. There's enough confusion
with regards to interaction with a screen reader. *smile* No use adding
more confusion when screen reader focus is somewhere off the visual
perspective.

Must be a scrolling issue I'm experiencing. Off to research open bugs in
the JAWS bug tracker.

Thanks again,
David


-----Original Message-----
From: Marissa Sapega
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 10:51 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] visual scrolling with screen readers

The Paciello Group's JAWS testing tool
(https://www.paciellogroup.com/products/jaws-inspect/) has a feature -
Speech Viewer - that gives you a live text view of JAWS speech as JAWS
navigates through a page. You could use that to help determine where screen
reader focus is.

Thank you,

Marissa Sapega

On 10/11/18, 9:08 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Jonathan Cohn"
< <EMAIL REMOVED> on behalf of <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

A bit of code that I experience uses significant number of background
or font images together with an off screen span for links / buttons. These
don't work well with NVDA currently, and I expect that since what JAWS would
actually be speaking is off screen that scrolling follows probably would not
work well, and actually if badly implemented would move scroll position to
as close as possible to the off screen content.

Jonathan Cohn

> On Oct 11, 2018, at 4:48 PM, Wolfgang Berndorfer
< <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> I use JAWS (at about 95% of time) and sometimes Zoomtext to see, what
JAWS
> doesn't tell me. But both run paralell on my system.
>
> My sighted colloegues recognise my focus via visual indication of
ZoomText
> (Red rect around the focussed in default).
>
> Very helpful for cooperation with sighted collegues and
sensibilisations.
> But not always working. Didn't try to reconstruct issues yet.
>
> And I couldn't try the 2018 Fusion of Jaws and Zoomtext.
>
> Wolfgang
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] Im
Auftrag
> von David Engebretson Jr
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Oktober 2018 21:03
> An: WebAIM Discussion List
> Betreff: [WebAIM] visual scrolling with screen readers
>
> I often share my screen reader findings with sighted developers.
Sometimes
> focus is not visually on the screen so the sighted folks don't know
where I
> am on the page.
>
> Is there a prescribed method for jumping visual focus to the same
point that
> screen reader focus is?
>
> In JAWS I thought JAWSKey+ctrl+delete was supposed to do this but it
doesn't
> always work.
>
> Any suggestions for consistently showing where screen reader focus is?
>
> Much appreciated,
> David
>
> David Engebretson Jr.
> <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > > > >
> > > >