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Re: re[2]: opening new browser windows?

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From: Mark Bryant
Date: Nov 6, 2003 2:19PM

"For supplemental content" is exactly why we are considering, which you seem
to contradict in your second statement.

You say they are bad, but yet suggest how do them on your own website under
the pop-up windows section: "But if you're using popup windows for
supplementary content, you should not use "#" or "javascript:" as your
hypertext reference. Use a real link, and set your JavaScript code to
"return false". The link will operate properly regardless of scripting
support. "

??

-mark


----- Original Message -----
From: < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: < <EMAIL REMOVED> >; < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:43 PM
Subject: re[2]: opening new browser windows?


> No. I cannot elaborate. Please do not mistake my tone, but I really do
mean exactly what I've said.
> Any new window is bad.
>
> What is the purpose for a new window?
> Potential answers:
> 1) "Keep them in my site" - Why? Because they can't find their way back?
To annoy them by making them close new windows?
> 2) "For supplemental content" - This is clearly an Information
Architecture problem. I have seen one supplemental window that I thought
was well done - a glossary of terms on a mortgage site.
>
>
>
> >> I disagree about the clearness. "Any new window is bad" is not very
> >> helpful. Can you elaborate?
>
> >> -mark
>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> >> To: < <EMAIL REMOVED> >; < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:03 PM
> >> Subject: re: opening new browser windows?
>
>
> >> > I think the guideline is quite clearly worded "do not cause
pop-ups or
> >> other windows to appear"
> >> > Any new window is bad.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >> What is the proper way to handle a link that when clicked,
opens a
> >> new
> >> > >> browser window (target=_blank)? Does it need to be
addressed for
> >> > >> accessibility and if so, why and how?
> >> >
> >> > >> I have read in the WAI about Checkpoint 10.1 "Until user
agents
> >> allow
> >> > >> users
> >> > >> to turn off spawned windows, do not cause pop-ups or other
windows
> >> to
> >> > >> appear
> >> > >> and do not change the current window without informing the
user.
> >> [Priority
> >> > >> 2]".
> >> >
> >> > >> Seems like this only applies to server spawned windows and
not
> >> user
> >> > >> initiated clicking?
> >> >
> >> > >> TIA,
> >> > >> -mark
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> Karl Groves - Certified Master CIW
> http://www.karlcore.com
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> AOL, MSN, YAHOO Users IM me at - "KarlCore"
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> Visit my favorite places:
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> http://www.baltimorepunk.com
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> http://www.punkrockworldwide.com
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