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Re: Difference between the Container tags and Structure Tags

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From: L Snider
Date: Dec 10, 2018 2:21PM

Hi Mark,

Just to confirm, did you see the correct tags in the tags panel itself? It
sounds like you did, but the Reading Order panel is wrong.

I am curious about this, because I am finding InDesign documents on the Mac
convert to span tags for paragraph and heading tags in the Reading Order
tool, but they are correct in the tags panel. I am also now finding that
Word files are starting to do the same in Acrobat Pro. This happens on both
PC and Mac. I use fast insider of Word, so others might not be seeing this
issue yet. It should be mainstream in a couple of months when they release
this version to the public.

I have also found recently on my Mac Word docs that Mac is not keeping the
styles in when it goes to Acrobat Pro. Headings routinely come up as just
paragraphs. However, this is both in the tags and reading order tool...

Cheers

Lisa







On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 2:11 PM Philip Kiff < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> I've seen this before and am not sure of the exact cause. I think it may
> occur when you use the Microsoft "export to PDF" engine instead of the
> Adobe Acrobat plug-in "Save as PDF" engine, but I'm not quite sure. You
> are right that you shouldn't have to edit the containers to match the
> tags after generating a PDF.
>
> There are several variables you can control when generating a PDF from
> Microsoft Word:
>
> * which PDF conversion engine (Microsoft vs Adobe Acrobat)
> * which operating system (Windows vs. Mac version of Acrobat)
> * which version of Microsoft Word
> * which version of Acrobat
> * which PDF options are selected for your export
>
> If you use the most recent versions of Acrobat DC Pro and Microsoft Word
> on Windows and use the "Save As" PDF option that becomes available after
> installing Acrobat, then you should not run into the issue you describe.
>
> You can try altering various options above to see if your output is
> different.
>
> Currently, I think that the Mac version of MS Word and of Acrobat
> Professional DC lag considerably behind their Windows counterparts. I
> would recommend against trying to generate accessible PDFs from Mac
> versions of MS Word and Acrobat.
>
> Phil.
>
> On 2018-12-10 2:23 PM, Mark Rummel wrote:
> > When I convert/save a pdf from Microsoft Word, its styles are converted
> to structure tags and not container tags. So when I open the Reading Order
> panel to check the tags, all the tags are <p> because it is reading the
> container tags. If I go into the properties then I can see the structure
> tags (they match the MS styles) and the container tags. Of course I can
> change it there, but that seems odd that I should have to do that.
> >
> > Am I doing something wrong when converting the PDFs? I am selecting the
> online version instead of the print version when saving on this mac.
> >
> > Any help would be great.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Mark
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