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From: Michael R. Burks
Date: Sep 10, 2001 7:14AM

Michael,
the wave is a tool for helping analyze a site for accessibility.
It is located at: http://www.temple.edu/inst_disabilities/piat/wave/
I was written by the late Dr. Len Kasday and is a terrific tool.
Sincerely,
Mike Burks
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From: WebAIM forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]On Behalf Of
Michael Goddard
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:35 AM
To: WebAIM forum
Subject: RE: Text Only Version

Mike,
Thank you for your positive feedback. A quick question...what is WAVE? Is
it some type of accessibility tester a la Bobby?
Once again thank you for the positive feedback.
Michael
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From: WebAIM forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]On Behalf Of
Michael R. Burks
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:14 PM
To: WebAIM forum
Subject: RE: Text Only Version

If the page below is to be used I am impressed. It shows that you took a
great deal of time and effort to make it accessible and it is very well
done. In fact I would say "WOW"!
Great Job, don t do a text only page, this one is terrific!
I ran the page at http://www.ohiogoodwills.org/test/ through the WAVE and
it looks great!
Take care and continue the great work....forget the text only page, you don
t need it in my opinion.

Sincerely,
Mike Burks
Webmaster and Public Information Officer
www.icdri.org
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From: WebAIM forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]On Behalf Of
Ben Caldwell
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 6:28 PM
To: 'WebAIM forum'
Subject: RE: Text Only Version

Hi Michael,
Out of curiosity, was there a particular accessibility reason you decided to
go with an alternative text only page? I didn't see anything out of the
ordinary at http://www.ohiogoodwills.org/test/ that would lead me to believe
text-only would be necessary to ensure accessibility. Unless dynamically
updated when the default version of a page changes, text-only pages are
often neglected over time and are time consuming to create and maintain.
For more information on this topic, see
http://www.w3.org/1999/05/WCAG-REC-fact#text.
On another note, in skimming through the code on the graphics page, I
noticed that you use the words "image" and "link" in many of your alt
attributes. Most screen readers announce both automatically (in some cases
audio cues like a change in voice or pitch are used to indicate that you are
on a link), so use of these words in the alt attributes is not necessary.
Hope this helps,
-Ben
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Ben Caldwell - Web/Information Specialist
Trace Research & Development Center
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-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]On Behalf Of
Michael Goddard
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 8:07 AM
To: WebAIM forum
Subject: Re: Text Only Version
Thank you both Beth and Lisa for your suggestions. I have did some changes
to the headers (no underlines) and added some color and depth to the
horizontal rules which will hopefully stand out a bit better.
Thank you once again for your suggestions and time.
Michael
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From: "Cohen, Lisa A." < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "'WebAIM forum'" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: Text Only Version

> Hi Michael,
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> Just one opinion - I think it looks pretty good, and those colors (which
are
> fairly high contrast) seem fine.
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> One thing I wondered though: Do you think you might use a wider underbar
> under your headers, to help differentiate (I was thinking of a user with
low
> vision using magnification) between simple underlines and hot links?
>
> Lisa
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Goddard [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:44 AM
> To: WebAIM forum
> Subject: Text Only Version
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> I am creating a text-only version of a web site and I am wondering if I
> should use colors within the headers or should I just keep everything
simply
> black and white?
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> Here is a sample that I am working on...
> http://www.ohiogoodwills.org/test/index_txt.html
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> This is basically my first attempt in creating a text only version and
> wanted to at least differentiate headings etc..
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> Thank you for any input and suggestions.
>
> Michael
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