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From: Lucy Greco
Date: May 13, 2019 4:07PM

Hello:
Let me clarify a little. I have no issue with same-page links. All the
aforementioned reasons I agree with and would always encourage.

I'm talking about those links that, when clicked, only refresh the page you
are on. So, for example, you are reading an article about the health care
system, and in the body of the article there is a link to the article, and
in the "Recently posted" footer of the article, there is a link to the
article, and in the menu there is also is a link to the article. Each of
these links will refresh the page and sometimes just go back to the top of
the page, and then the user wonders why the link did not work.

Thanks,
Lucy

Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces



On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 8:21 AM Wolfgang Berndorfer <
<EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> I think, In-side links can improve usability not only for people with
> cognitive disabilities. TOC and footmarks have already been mentioned.
>
> What more? Reading a web side is not like reading a novel from the
> beginning
> to the end. When I seek information on a side, I first try to get an
> overview by checking available headings. If the heading text seems helpful,
> I read the subcontent. This strategy is helpful for all and highly
> recommendable for people, who use screen readers, like me.
>
> If in the subcontent I inquire, topics are contained, which already have
> been discussed on the same side, it's very helpful, when they are linked.
>
> Complementary:
> a) Metainfos for links like In-Side-Links have lately been discussed here
> under the thread "Meta Infos necessary in links". (Sorry: Didn't find any
> direct online resource on webaim for the thread.).
> b) UX is not the same as usability. The user experience is too often bad
> usability. No helpful headings …
> Wolfgang
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] Im Auftrag
> von James A.
> Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Mai 2019 09:22
> An: WebAIM Discussion List
> Betreff: Re: [WebAIM] links to the page they are on
>
> Hi Lucy
>
> In-page links can be useful in some cases for people with cognitive
> disabilities. For example, table of contents and links to sections can help
> with orientating users and avoid unnecessary reading. The problem can occur
> if there is no means of returning to the original location on the page. The
> UK government website uses this approach well eg
>
> https://www.gov.uk/guidance/accessibility-requirements-for-public-sector-web
> sites-and-apps#contents
> <https://www.gov.uk/guidance/accessibility-requirements-for-public-sector-websites-and-apps#contents>
>
> Another useful use case for many users is when there is a footnote, for
> example to small print or terms and conditions which are frequently
> indicated by *.
>
> I consider that 2.4.4 Links Purpose covers the need to ensure all users
> understand the purpose of the link is to move within the page.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Abi James
>
> University of Southampton
> Abilitynet & British Dyslexia Association
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 11 May 2019, at 01:09, Patrick H. Lauke
> < <EMAIL REMOVED> <mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> >> wrote:
>
> On 11/05/2019 01:06, Lucy Greco wrote:
> thanks for the quick reply so the cognative working group did not think
> this was a problem? interesting
>
> I can't speak for the group, but I can say that they did not put forward
> any
> SCs that made it into WCAG concerning this particular issue.
>
> P
> --
> Patrick H. Lauke
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