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Re: JAWS aria-describedby

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From: Miriam Fukushima
Date: Jul 16, 2019 8:18AM

It works with your example, so maybe I have to look into how the focus
is set. I changed JAWS' signal tone for forms mode, so I can hear it
properly and JAWS doesn't seem to change into forms mode properly. So I
assume this is rather a problem on how focus is set in this application.
But this is a much clearer starting point for debugging.

Thank you very much for the help.

KR Miriam

On 16.07.2019 15:42, Birkir R. Gunnarsson wrote:
> That should be reported as a Jaws bug.
> It used to work.
> <fieldset aria-describedby="foo">
> <legend>What's your name</legend>
> <p id="foo">First and last please</p>
> <label>
> <span>First name</span>
> <input type="text">
> </label>
> <label>
> <span>Last name</span>
> <input type="text">
> </label>
> </fieldset>
> When you tab into this fieldset (focus goes on "first name" Jaws
> should read "What's your name, first and last please", first name
> edit.
> (maybe it would read the "first name edit" before the group label).
> Does anything change when you add role="group" to the fieldset (or
> role="radiogroup" if it's just radio buttons)?
> Thanks
>
>
>
> On 7/16/19, Miriam Fukushima < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Hi
>>> No, you need to use the aria-describedby on the <fieldset> tag
>>> directly, not on the <legend> tag.
>>> Keep in mind that group labels work a bit differently in different
>>> screen readers, the group label/aria-describedby is typically only
>>> announced when the user enters the group (e.g. tabs into the first
>>> control in the group), they are seldom, if ever, announced in browse
>>> mode.
>> I have tried that as well, but JAWS still only reads the value of the
>> legend but not of aria-describedby.
>>
>> It only works when I insert an extra paragraph with the value of the
>> legend and then give the legend an aria-labelledby with the value of the
>> IDs of both paragraphs.
>>
>> But then it is a concatenated label and not split into label of the
>> fieldset and additional information of the fieldset.
>>
>> KR Miriam
>>
>> On 16.07.2019 15:13, Birkir R. Gunnarsson wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> No, you need to use the aria-describedby on the <fieldset> tag
>>> directly, not on the <legend> tag.
>>> Keep in mind that group labels work a bit differently in different
>>> screen readers, the group label/aria-describedby is typically only
>>> announced when the user enters the group (e.g. tabs into the first
>>> control in the group), they are seldom, if ever, announced in browse
>>> mode.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/16/19, Miriam Fukushima < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> has anyone come across a similar behavior of JAWS 2019?
>>>>
>>>> I have the following HTML markup:
>>>>
>>>> A fieldset with a legend, some inputs and a paragraph.
>>>>
>>>> The legend contains the name of the fieldset.
>>>>
>>>> The legend further has the attribute aria-describedby and the ID of the
>>>> paragraph that contains additional information about the fieldset.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> JAWS does not read the value of the aria attribute in either Chrome or
>>>> Firefox.
>>>>
>>>> Is aria-describedby not supposed to be used on HTML-legend-tags?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for the clarification.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Miriam
>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
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>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>>
>> Miriam Fukushima
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Miriam Fukushima
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