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From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Date: Jul 24, 2019 5:06AM

Hello,
Yes, libraries are often the problem. Most of the React, Angular, and Vue
libraries I've seen are not accessible in many ways.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;


On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 3:33 AM Mallory < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Unfortunately many of the bad patterns I see are sites I've audited and
> that can fall under an NDA. However they are very often using open
> libraries. For example I recently did a site using <hi-button> everywhere.
> Are links to libraries also useful for this survey?
>
> Sometimes the libraries' own docs will explain how do to something in an
> accessible manner but clearly the developers using the library just copy
> and paste or feel they don't have time to read 300+ pages and so try to
> treat the docs like a cookbook. Would these libraries still be useful in
> the survey?
>
> cheers,
> Mallory
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Léonie Watson via WebAIM-Forum wrote:
> >
> > On 23/07/2019 20:25, Asa Dotzler wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > > But identifying inaccessible custom elements is a challenge. The
> approach
> > > we're investigating is to use machine learning, which requires many
> > > examples. We would greatly appreciate your help in finding them, via
> this
> > > survey
> > >
> > >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfkZ_Hq4UKUtJDynbaZsSdfZEDx3Un9Z7M-MBN4ofy7vOvhlQ/viewform
> >
> > Has Mozilla considered grepping the web for class name "cow paths"? I'd
> > wager that looking for things like "class="button", class="btn" and
> > variants would turn up a huge amount of data to work with.
> >
> > If memory serves, this is one of the methods used to identify the cow
> > paths that were later paved as the header, footer, navigation elements
> > and such.
> >
> >
> > Léonie.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Asa Dotzler
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > --
> > @TetraLogical TetraLogical.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >