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Re: [Athen] Powerpoint, screenreaders and text boxes

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From: Howard Kramer
Date: Jan 30, 2020 7:05PM

Thanks Karen. I think that explains it. So the main issue seems to be when
copying or converting the content to a different format, not the reading of
the slides in PPT. I just want to make sure I understand all the benefits.

-Howard

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 5:13 PM Karlen Communications <
<EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Accessibility comes into play when you need to create a braille or large
> print copy of the presentation. When you save the presentation as an
> outline or RTF and add accessible structure to the text, you will have to
> copy and paste everything that is in a tex box into the RTF/Word doc. Using
> the default accessible placeholders saves you time and is just good
> practice.
>
> Yes, I can read content in text boxes in PowerPoint with my screen reader
> but why delete the accessible placeholders to put text boxes in their place
> when you can modify the available layouts or create your own and save you
> time you beef an alternate format.
>
> I can send you a sample of what I mean in the morning and give you a call
> if you like.
>
> Cheers, Karen
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 30, 2020, at 6:13 PM, Howard Kramer < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Seems to also work with JAWS.
> >
> > -Howard
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 3:17 PM Howard Kramer < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
> >> Thanks Susan! Good to know.
> >>
> >> -Howard
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 3:17 PM Susan Kelmer <
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> >>> Well, that's interesting! NVDA is always making advancements, unlike
> Jaws, and they may have solved this puzzle.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> However, if a screenreader user is using Jaws, then there will still
> be a problem as Jaws won't read (or even see) those text boxes.
> >>>
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> >>> From: athen-list < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On
> Behalf Of Howard Kramer
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 3:00 PM
> >>> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <
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> >>> Subject: [Athen] Powerpoint, screenreaders and text boxes
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I've been playing around with PowerPoint (2013 for Windows) and NVDA.
> It's always been emphasized not to use text boxes and instead to use the
> slide layouts but I notice that NVDA reads the text boxes without problem
> although you may need to rearrange the order in the selection pane. I can
> see that the text boxes are missing from the outline view but I can't see
> to get NVDA to read that pane in any case.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Does the admonition against text boxes still apply?
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Howard
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Howard Kramer
> >>>
> >>> Conference Coordinator
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> >>> Accessing Higher Ground
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> >>> cell: 720-351-8668
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> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Howard
> >>
> >> Howard Kramer
> >> Conference Coordinator
> >> Accessing Higher Ground
> >> 303-492-8672
> >> cell: 720-351-8668
> >>
> >> Join us for the Accessing Higher Ground Conference in Westminster,
> Colorado, Nov 16-20, 2020. Request for proposals will be announced late
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Howard
> >
> > Howard Kramer
> > Conference Coordinator
> > Accessing Higher Ground
> > 303-492-8672
> > cell: 720-351-8668
> >
> > Join us for the Accessing Higher Ground Conference in Westminster,
> Colorado, Nov 16-20, 2020. Request for proposals will be announced late
> February.
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--
Regards,
Howard

Howard Kramer
Conference Coordinator
Accessing Higher Ground
303-492-8672
cell: 720-351-8668

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