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From: Colleen Gratzer
Date: Apr 26, 2020 6:26PM

Agreed, Sean. That's exactly why I created an online course for this.

Bookwise, I have found Inclusive Design Patterns by Smashing Magazine's
Heydon Pickering to be very helpful.


Colleen Gratzer
Certified Branding Expert + Accessibility Specialist, Gratzer Graphics LLC
https://gratzergraphics.com
Design Mentor and Host of the Design Domination podcast
http://creative-boost.com



On 4/26/20 6:45 PM, Murphy, Sean wrote:
> A gap in this area for accessibility is books and videos which train people in development and design do not cover accessibility fully. I’ve read too many books that don’t discuss it or it’s only likely touched upon
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> Supporting Steve and his original request. Although there was a bit of snark
> in his original post, we've found the same with web developers knowledge of
> accessibility.
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> There ARE developers who know it well, but they are few and usually booked
> to the hilt.
>
> I'd love to find one or more who we can use for our own website and
> recommend to our clients.
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> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of Steve
> Green
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 3:44 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] how do I find a developer who knows accessibility
>
> Larry, I'm sorry if you took my comments the wrong way. In nearly 20 years
> of testing and countless hundreds of projects, we have only seen a handful
> of pages that were fully WCAG AA conformant, and even the smallest and
> simplest websites contained non-conformances. Many of those developers would
> say they know accessibility, but for some reason that knowledge has never
> resulted in a conformant website. The next time your group is looking for a
> testing company we would be happy to do a couple of days' testing free of
> charge.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of Larry
> C. Lyons
> Sent: 26 April 2020 20:17
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] how do I find a developer who knows accessibility
>
> Steve,
>
> Your remark was uncalled for, and an insult to us developers who do happen
> know accessibility. The next time our group is looking for a testing
> company, I am sure I'll take your snippy and insulting comment into
> consideration.
>
> On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 14:04, < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
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>> From: Steve Green < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
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>> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 16:10:11 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] how do I find a developer who knows
>> accessibility Even if you believe in a multiverse where every possible
>> outcome occurs in a universe somewhere, I'm still not sure you'll find
>> a developer who understands accessibility.
>>
>> Steve Green
>> Managing Director
>> Test Partners Ltd
>>
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