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From: Sumit Patel
Date: Jun 2, 2020 1:23AM

Ok, Thank you for your response

On 26/05/2020, Web Axe < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Sumit,
>
> I asked the Deque Univ. product owner about the shortcut issue. He replied
> that the shortcut was removed some time ago. You're probably using on a
> SCORM export of the courses that hasn't been updated in a while; please ask
> the accessibility coordinator to get the latest version of the courses.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 2:00 PM < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
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>> 1. 2.1.4 Character key short cuts (Sumit Patel)
>> 2. Re: 2.1.4 Character key short cuts (Murphy, Sean)
>> 3. Re: 2.1.4 Character key short cuts (Sumit Patel)
>> 4. Re: 2.1.4 Character key short cuts (Murphy, Sean)
>> 5. Re: 2.1.4 Character key short cuts (glen walker)
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Sumit Patel < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 09:41:58 +0530
>> Subject: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> I have come up with a doubt regarding 2.1.4 character key shortcuts .
>> Could you please give me a good example of 2.1.4 SC.
>>
>> In youtube, the letter "K" is the shortcut for play / Pause. In NVDA ,
>> "K" will take you to the next link. So, if you press "K" in youtube ,
>> it will take you to the next link rather than activating the Play /
>> Pause button. Is it a violation?
>>
>> In Deque university, when we doing the course, "Alt + Ctrl + N " is
>> the command to go to the next page. But, if you are using NVDA, with
>> the provided key command, it will restart NVDA. It won't take you to
>> the next page.
>> What about it?
>>
>> Please help me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Murphy, Sean" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 04:18:13 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
>> This still would pass. The screen reader user has the ability of
>> by-passing the keystroke. As the letter 'k' supports non-screen readers as
>> well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sean Murphy | Digital System specialist (Accessibility)
>> Telstra Digital Channels | Digital Systems
>> Mobile: 0405 129 739 | Desk: (02) 9866-7917
>> Digital Systems Launch Page
>> Accessibility Single source of Truth
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
>> Sumit Patel
>> Sent: Monday, 25 May 2020 2:12 PM
>> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> Subject: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
>>
>> [External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation – be
>> cautious, particularly with links and attachments.
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> I have come up with a doubt regarding 2.1.4 character key shortcuts .
>> Could you please give me a good example of 2.1.4 SC.
>>
>> In youtube, the letter "K" is the shortcut for play / Pause. In NVDA , "K"
>> will take you to the next link. So, if you press "K" in youtube , it will
>> take you to the next link rather than activating the Play / Pause button.
>> Is it a violation?
>>
>> In Deque university, when we doing the course, "Alt + Ctrl + N " is the
>> command to go to the next page. But, if you are using NVDA, with the
>> provided key command, it will restart NVDA. It won't take you to the next
>> page.
>> What about it?
>>
>> Please help me.
>> >> >> at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Sumit Patel < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 09:59:29 +0530
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
>> Could you please give me an example of this SC for better
>> understanding with URL
>>
>> On 25/05/2020, Murphy, Sean < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> > This still would pass. The screen reader user has the ability of
>> by-passing
>> > the keystroke. As the letter 'k' supports non-screen readers as well.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sean Murphy | Digital System specialist (Accessibility)
>> > Telstra Digital Channels | Digital Systems
>> > Mobile: 0405 129 739 | Desk: (02) 9866-7917
>> > Digital Systems Launch Page
>> > Accessibility Single source of Truth
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
>> Sumit
>> > Patel
>> > Sent: Monday, 25 May 2020 2:12 PM
>> > To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> > Subject: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
>> >
>> > [External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation – be
>> > cautious, particularly with links and attachments.
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> >
>> > I have come up with a doubt regarding 2.1.4 character key shortcuts .
>> > Could you please give me a good example of 2.1.4 SC.
>> >
>> > In youtube, the letter "K" is the shortcut for play / Pause. In NVDA ,
>> "K"
>> > will take you to the next link. So, if you press "K" in youtube , it
>> > will
>> > take you to the next link rather than activating the Play / Pause
>> button. Is
>> > it a violation?
>> >
>> > In Deque university, when we doing the course, "Alt + Ctrl + N " is the
>> > command to go to the next page. But, if you are using NVDA, with the
>> > provided key command, it will restart NVDA. It won't take you to the
>> > next
>> > page.
>> > What about it?
>> >
>> > Please help me.
>> > >> > >> archives at
>> > http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Murphy, Sean" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 04:45:14 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
>> The failure is related to the use of the letter 'k' based upon the SC. Not
>> related to the screen reader. The SC references, not to use single letter
>> shortcut keys as it impacts speech (voice recognition) users. The SC
>> references:
>>
>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/character-key-shortcuts.html
>>
>> Turn off
>> A mechanism is available to turn the shortcut off;
>> Remap
>> A mechanism is available to remap the shortcut to include one or more
>> non-printable keyboard keys (e.g., Ctrl, Alt);
>> Active only on focus
>> The keyboard shortcut for a user interface component is only active when
>> that component has focus.
>>
>> Thus technically the app you mention in your example fails. If they used a
>> modifier of ctrl, alt or both, then this would pass. The challenge here of
>> course is to select something that does not impact the user agent.
>>
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sean Murphy | Digital System specialist (Accessibility)
>> Telstra Digital Channels | Digital Systems
>> Mobile: 0405 129 739 | Desk: (02) 9866-7917
>> Digital Systems Launch Page
>> Accessibility Single source of Truth
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
>> Sumit Patel
>> Sent: Monday, 25 May 2020 2:29 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
>>
>> [External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation – be
>> cautious, particularly with links and attachments.
>>
>> Could you please give me an example of this SC for better understanding
>> with URL
>>
>> On 25/05/2020, Murphy, Sean < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> > This still would pass. The screen reader user has the ability of
>> > by-passing the keystroke. As the letter 'k' supports non-screen readers
>> as well.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sean Murphy | Digital System specialist (Accessibility) Telstra
>> > Digital Channels | Digital Systems
>> > Mobile: 0405 129 739 | Desk: (02) 9866-7917 Digital Systems Launch
>> > Page Accessibility Single source of Truth
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
>> > Sumit Patel
>> > Sent: Monday, 25 May 2020 2:12 PM
>> > To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> > Subject: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
>> >
>> > [External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation –
>> > be cautious, particularly with links and attachments.
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> >
>> > I have come up with a doubt regarding 2.1.4 character key shortcuts .
>> > Could you please give me a good example of 2.1.4 SC.
>> >
>> > In youtube, the letter "K" is the shortcut for play / Pause. In NVDA ,
>> "K"
>> > will take you to the next link. So, if you press "K" in youtube , it
>> > will take you to the next link rather than activating the Play / Pause
>> > button. Is it a violation?
>> >
>> > In Deque university, when we doing the course, "Alt + Ctrl + N " is
>> > the command to go to the next page. But, if you are using NVDA, with
>> > the provided key command, it will restart NVDA. It won't take you to
>> > the next page.
>> > What about it?
>> >
>> > Please help me.
>> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >
>> >> >> at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: glen walker < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 11:35:48 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
>> The youtube example would fail because it uses simple (unmodified) keys as
>> shortcuts and the keys work no matter where you are on the page. If I tab
>> to the comment area or the "up next" section in youtube and press K, the
>> video plays or pauses. If the K key only worked when the video itself had
>> focus, then it would pass because that's "Active only on focus". Since
>> youtube doesn't have a way to turn off the keyboard shortcuts nor a way to
>> remap the letters, it fails.
>>
>> Gmail (web interface), on the other hand, has a settings for turning
>> on/off
>> shortcut keys so it passes.
>>
>> >> >> >> >>
> > > > >