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Re: CSS Units of Measurement

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From: Tim Beadle
Date: Feb 19, 2004 4:36AM

On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:19:16PM +0200, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> > OK - it's called a hack, but it's just using a parsing error in a broken
> > browser to solve *real world problems*.
>
> You mean the problems you wanted to create? I'm not sure of what problems
> you are referring to now, but the problem with IE's wrong interpretation
> of font-size keywords is easily _avoided_ by not using them in the first
> place.

I mean that using keywords is *one* approach to accessible, resizable font
sizing. It's a chosen approach, not a "problem I wanted to create". At the time,
Owen Briggs hadn't posted his ems/percentage solution, so I saw it *in my view*
as the best option for accessible font sizing.

> > Tantek's hack helps us write valid, standards-
> > compliant sites that are so much lighter in page weight terms than the table-
> > based equivalent, and accessible too.
>
> Let's see what Google says when I ask
> "Tantek's hack"
> The first hit is described by Google as follows:
>
> Box Model Hack
> Please upgrade to a browser that supports web standards. Box Model
> Hack. Boxtest. Here is a sample div with class "boxtest". It has ...
> tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html

Which browser are you using? That technique, and the browser upgrade campaign,
is positively discouraged now.

"Note to site builders: The WaSP Browser Upgrade Campaign has come to a close.
As such we ask that you discontinue your use of this upgrade message and visit
the Beyond the Browser Upgrade Campaign page to learn about what to do instead."
- http://www.webstandards.org/upgrade/

> I think this speaks for itself. The very page that promotes the hack is
> clearly optimized for arguing with visitors about their choice of
> browser. OK, that was not quite fair, but neither were your comments.

What? You're going off the deep end a bit, aren't you? I presented a solution
to font sizing that *works for me* and is accessible (which is what this list
is about, after all) and you call that "unfair"? Hmmm.

How much real world web development have you actually done?

Tim
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