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Date: Jan 14, 2022 6:45AM


Thank you Paul,

I have nothing to do with this website. I'm only a WAS and I'm curious.

Zsolt


2022. 01. 13. 15:51 keltezéssel, Paul Rayius írta:
> As others have mentioned, I would also highly recommend making the site accessible and not relying on a separate, accessible version. While it's true that WCAG 2.0 (and 2.1) allow for this it really should be used as a "last resort" option.
>
> As per the W3C's documentation in "Understanding Conformance," (https://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/conformance.html), they state: "Note that providing an alternate version is a fallback option for conformance to WCAG and the preferred method of conformance is to make all content directly accessible."
>
> I hope that helps to inform decision-makers and other stakeholders.
>
> Best,
> Paul
>
> Paul Rayius
> Vice-President of Training
> CommonLook
>
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> Hi Zsolt,
>
> I also had a flashback to 2003 with the alternate accessible site. I would highly recommend not doing this for a number of reasons. We should be able to make one site fairly accessible for many people. We can never make one site accessible for 100% of users, because each one of us has different needs. Technology changes every year, and sometimes in months-Look at voice control, and how it has improved hugely in just 4 years and now it is a major tech to check with...
>
> Having two sites 'others' those of us with disabilities, and in 2022 this would not be a strategy I recommend. For me, this is similar to overlays, and I won't get into that rat's nest but if you aren't aware of that, do go on Twitter and search overlays accessibility.
>
> Plus, in my personal view, it opens you up to a lawsuit. It may not apply to the country you reside in, but it is an important successful lawsuit in my view:
> https://www.levelaccess.com/settlement-shows-limits-separate-equal-approach-digital-accessibility/
>
> Cheers
>
> L:sa
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 4:57 AM Zsolt Edelényi < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
>> Thank you Mark and Glen for your answer!
>>
>> Zsolt
>>
>> 2022. 01. 12. 16:44 keltezéssel, glen walker írta:
>>> The "Conforming Alternate Version" is spelled out pretty well at the
>>> link you mentioned:
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#dfn-conforming-alternate-version
>>>
>>> In this case, it looks like non-conforming version (the main
>>> website?)
>> has
>>> a link to the conforming version via the image link (the first link
>>> on
>> the
>>> page) that looks like a yellow circle with three embedded black circles.
>>> The image has appropriate alt text leading the user to the "barrier free"
>>> version.
>>>
>>> However, both the link and the image are tab stops. The link does
>>> not
>> have
>>> a focus indicator but the image does, so technically the link would
>>> fail the "accessibility-supported mechanism" requirement in #4.1
>>> because it doesn't have a focus indicator. But that's easy to fix.
>>> There's no need to have tabindex=0 on the image since it's contained
>>> in the link and if
>> the
>>> focus indicator is fixed, it would satisfy a "conforming alternate
>> version"
>>> (assuming the website it's linked to is actually conforming and
>>> provides all the same information as the original site and is kept up to date).
>>>
>>> Personally, I think it's a lot more work to maintain two websites
>>> and
>> make
>>> sure they stay in sync when changes are made rather than the work
>> required
>>> to make the original website conformant.
>>> >>> >>> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>>> >> --
>> Zsolt Edelényi
>> Web Accessibility Specialist
>> Mobile: +36205617144
>> email: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
> > > > > > > --
Zsolt Edelényi
Web Accessibility Specialist
Mobile: +36205617144
email: <EMAIL REMOVED>