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Re: How many people switch off javascript?

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From: Chris Heilmann
Date: Aug 31, 2004 5:37AM



Some more information might help.

How many levels should your navigation have? Recommended is one popup
level tops, as otherwise it'll be a mouse-pointer nightmare.

I could do a version for you if needed. Generally I pray that anybody
using or offering DHTML menus to clients should very well know how to do
them and what their drawbacks are. document.write browsersniffing scripts
must die quickly and get burried deep in the woods.


> Thanks to both of you for these pointers.
> The only way I've ever managed to get a collapsible menu to work is
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> javascript, and the code I use is a massive javascript file that is
> required even in order to load up the menu items. I have used
> tags to enclose a tabular menu in the past, but I'm not doing that anymore
> as it simply loads 2 massive menus instead of one!
> I'll take a look at these examples to see if there is anything I can glean
> from them to build a better menu, which may help whether I can convince
> our
> client to do without the text-based site or not!
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> That would make a lot more sense if they were turned off the first time,
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>> Hi Victoria,
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>> I don't have any numbers but one solution you can suggest is to include
> an
>> option to switch JavaScript menus on and off. An example can be found at
>> http://www.darlington.gov.uk/Generic/Profiles/Visitors.htm. That way the
>> client gets what they want and the user gets to the content!
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>> Thanks, Henny
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>> From: victoria.hamill [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
>> Sent: 31 August 2004 11:06
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>> Subject: [WebAIM] How many people switch off javascript?
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>> Hi,
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>> One of our clients has requested a text-only version of his website so
>> that
>> he can avoid thinking about accessibility on his main site. I'm trying
>> to
>> put together a list of arguments against this as I completely disagree
>> with
>> the whole notion of building a flat and lifeless alternative because you
>> want to have a whizzy menu etc. on the main one. I know that the idea of
>> text-only is unpopular among people here as I've seen a lot of outrage
>> whenever it is mentioned.
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>> One of my arguments is to be the number of people who switch off
>> javascript
>> when they view sites, thus making the use of javascript as a navigation
>> tool unreliable. I believe this number is quite high, and is far from
>> restricted to people with disabilities, but was wondering if there was a
>> resource anyone knew of where I could find a statistic?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Victoria
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>> Victoria Hamill
>> NetInfo
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