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Re: Yes!!! It's the Accessibility World Cup!

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From: Daniel Champion
Date: Jun 12, 2006 5:10AM

Jukka "Yucca" Korpela:

>> I agree, that's why I specifically said it would be a reasonable
*proxy*
>> for accessibility.

> That sounds like a confusing attempt to use the technical term "proxy"
> metaphorically. Human communication usually fails, and metaphors make
> failures more or less inevitable.

You're correct and I apologise, my communication was lacking. What I meant
was "proxy indicator", and I was wrong to assume that others would
appreciate that. It wasn't intended as a metaphor.

Notwithstanding your opinion on there being a relationship between
validity and accessibility, I still believe it to exist and believe it is
getting stronger. Unfortunately I can't prove it any more than you can
disprove it.

>> The point I trying to make is that automated testing of accessibility
is
>> extremely limited without manual checking,

> I couldn't agree more, except possibly if you changed "extremely
limited"
> to "useless" or "worse than useless", but that would perhaps be too
> extremistics.

Automated accessibility testing does have value, so "useless" or "worse
than useless" would be incorrect. I've certainly derived value from it,
but where it is valueless is as a comparitor between web sites.

>> This email and any attachments have been scanned for viruses prior to
>> leaving Clackmannanshire Council.

> I guess that text got added independently of you, but have you reported
> to the appropriate people that such statements are foolish and may
confuse
> some people and annoy others? (It annoys me because I see the gross
> absurdity too well.)

I have far too many battles to fight without looking for more. In the
words of Reinhold Niebuhr:

"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the
courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the
difference."

Dan




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