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From: Nancy Johnson
Date: Wed, May 05 2010 9:51AM
Subject: editable pdf forms
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Has anyone had experience with screen readers and editable pdf forms ?

We created an editable pdf form for our private site and couldn't
make it accessible. No matter what I did to make it accessible, and
added appropriate tags. Both LCDesigner and Adobe Acrobat Professional
said that not tagged.

JAWS could not read it.

We are starting work on an editable pdf form for the public site.

Thank you

Nancy

From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Wed, May 05 2010 9:54AM
Subject: Re: editable pdf forms
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Is it static or dynamic form?

Did you run JAWS first, then open the form, or the other way around? Dynamic forms create the accessibility data when there is an accessibility information-consuming client in use, so if you load JAWS after the form, there might not be any accessibility data to read.

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Group Product Manager, Accessibility
Adobe Systems

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Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:51 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] editable pdf forms

Has anyone had experience with screen readers and editable pdf forms ?

We created an editable pdf form for our private site and couldn't
make it accessible. No matter what I did to make it accessible, and
added appropriate tags. Both LCDesigner and Adobe Acrobat Professional
said that not tagged.

JAWS could not read it.

We are starting work on an editable pdf form for the public site.

Thank you

Nancy

From: Duff Johnson
Date: Wed, May 05 2010 10:24AM
Subject: Re: editable pdf forms
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Nancy,

Please send me the form you couldn't make accessible - = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = . We'll take a look and report back to the list along with whatever solution we find.

Duff Johnson
Appligent Document Solutions
http://www.appligent.com
http://www.twitter.com/duffjohnson

> Has anyone had experience with screen readers and editable pdf forms ?
>
> We created an editable pdf form for our private site and couldn't
> make it accessible. No matter what I did to make it accessible, and
> added appropriate tags. Both LCDesigner and Adobe Acrobat Professional
> said that not tagged.
>
> JAWS could not read it.
>
> We are starting work on an editable pdf form for the public site.
>
> Thank you
>
> Nancy
>

From: Karlen Communications
Date: Wed, May 05 2010 10:42AM
Subject: Re: editable PDF forms
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Further to Andrew's post - You should always have the adaptive technology
running first since the scripts/set files tools of the adaptive technology
are initialized for the opening application and starting AT after you launch
an application affects its ability to find content even accessible content.

Cheers, Karen


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Kirkpatrick
Sent: May-05-10 10:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] editable pdf forms

Is it static or dynamic form?

Did you run JAWS first, then open the form, or the other way around?
Dynamic forms create the accessibility data when there is an accessibility
information-consuming client in use, so if you load JAWS after the form,
there might not be any accessibility data to read.

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Group Product Manager, Accessibility
Adobe Systems

= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
http://twitter.com/awkawk
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility

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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Nancy Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:51 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] editable pdf forms

Has anyone had experience with screen readers and editable pdf forms ?

We created an editable pdf form for our private site and couldn't
make it accessible. No matter what I did to make it accessible, and
added appropriate tags. Both LCDesigner and Adobe Acrobat Professional
said that not tagged.

JAWS could not read it.

We are starting work on an editable pdf form for the public site.

Thank you

Nancy

From: Karlen Communications
Date: Wed, May 05 2010 10:45AM
Subject: Re: editable PDF forms
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I can take a look at it too if you can send it.

Cheers, Karen

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Sent: May-05-10 10:51 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] editable pdf forms

Has anyone had experience with screen readers and editable pdf forms ?

We created an editable pdf form for our private site and couldn't
make it accessible. No matter what I did to make it accessible, and
added appropriate tags. Both LCDesigner and Adobe Acrobat Professional
said that not tagged.

JAWS could not read it.

We are starting work on an editable pdf form for the public site.

Thank you

Nancy

From: Nancy Johnson
Date: Wed, May 05 2010 10:51AM
Subject: Re: editable pdf forms
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For the Internal Form: It is a Dynamic Form, XML, database driven.
It is downloadable to the desktop with a sync option with user login.
I ran JAWs first then opened the form. I could not share it at this
point because it is internal only.

This public form will be dynamic, will not have a sync option but will
be xml, and the ability to integrate to the database on upload or
email attachment. Still in the planning stage.

I was just wondering if anyone else had trouble accessing this type of form.

Nancy Johnson


On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Duff Johnson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Nancy,
>
> Please send me the form you couldn't make accessible - = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = .  We'll take a look and report back to the list along with whatever solution we find.
>
> Duff Johnson
> Appligent Document Solutions
> http://www.appligent.com
> http://www.twitter.com/duffjohnson
>
>> Has anyone had experience with screen readers and editable pdf forms ?
>>
>> We created an editable pdf form for  our private site and couldn't
>> make it accessible.  No matter what I did to make it accessible, and
>> added appropriate tags. Both LCDesigner and Adobe Acrobat Professional
>> said that not tagged.
>>
>> JAWS could not read it.
>>
>> We are starting work on an editable pdf form for the public site.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Nancy
>>

From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Wed, May 05 2010 11:03AM
Subject: Re: editable pdf forms
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Can you replicate the issue with a simple form that isn't DB-driven and share that?

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Group Product Manager, Accessibility
Adobe Systems

= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
http://twitter.com/awkawk
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility


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From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Nancy Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:52 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] editable pdf forms

For the Internal Form: It is a Dynamic Form, XML, database driven.
It is downloadable to the desktop with a sync option with user login.
I ran JAWs first then opened the form. I could not share it at this
point because it is internal only.

This public form will be dynamic, will not have a sync option but will
be xml, and the ability to integrate to the database on upload or
email attachment. Still in the planning stage.

I was just wondering if anyone else had trouble accessing this type of form.

Nancy Johnson


On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Duff Johnson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Nancy,
>
> Please send me the form you couldn't make accessible - = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = .  We'll take a look and report back to the list along with whatever solution we find.
>
> Duff Johnson
> Appligent Document Solutions
> http://www.appligent.com
> http://www.twitter.com/duffjohnson
>
>> Has anyone had experience with screen readers and editable pdf forms ?
>>
>> We created an editable pdf form for  our private site and couldn't
>> make it accessible.  No matter what I did to make it accessible, and
>> added appropriate tags. Both LCDesigner and Adobe Acrobat Professional
>> said that not tagged.
>>
>> JAWS could not read it.
>>
>> We are starting work on an editable pdf form for the public site.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Nancy
>>