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From: Silvia Rodríguez Vázquez
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2014 9:44AM
Subject: Image copyright info - where to add it?
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Dear all,
Do you think that it is appropriate to include copyright information in the
image text alternative? I have seen many websites doing so, even after an
appropriate text replacement for the image (e.g., alt="Man reading a book
in the park. Photo: Jean Dupond" or alt="Man reading a book in the park.
© Senses Studio). I was wondering if this was considered a good practice,
or if we should rather include it:
- as a title attribute's value?
- in the main body of the page?
- as an image caption?
Thanks in advance for your comments! Any insights on this would be highly
welcomed.
Best,
Silvia
From: Steve Faulkner
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2014 9:54AM
Subject: Re: Image copyright info - where to add it?
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See http://www.w3.org/TR/html/links.html#link-type-license
--
Regards
SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>;
On 15 November 2014 16:44, Silvia RodrÃguez Vázquez <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Do you think that it is appropriate to include copyright information in the
> image text alternative? I have seen many websites doing so, even after an
> appropriate text replacement for the image (e.g., alt="Man reading a book
> in the park. Photo: Jean Dupond" or alt="Man reading a book in the park.
> © Senses Studio). I was wondering if this was considered a good practice,
> or if we should rather include it:
> - as a title attribute's value?
> - in the main body of the page?
> - as an image caption?
>
> Thanks in advance for your comments! Any insights on this would be highly
> welcomed.
>
> Best,
>
> Silvia
> > > >
From: Silvia Rodríguez Vázquez
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2014 11:00AM
Subject: Re: Image copyright info - where to add it?
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Hi Steve,
Thanks for the prompt response and direct reference. I see, however, that
"authors must not include more than one main element in a document". What
happens if the document has many images? (I am not yet super familiarised
with the new recommendation, so please accept my apologies if I am asking
too many silly questions).
Related to this... In the last version of the doc "HTML5: Techniques for
providing useful text alternatives", it says that the figure and figcaption
elements are not currently accessibility supported by the majority of
browsers. I understand from the same doc that, from now on, the alt
attribute should be only used to label the image somehow. But the truth is
that many of the webs out there probably still use it with the same purpose
as before (as a textual replacement).
I was actually looking for a more practical solution from the point of view
of the end user, i.e., is it meaningful to have that info as part of the
image description? Or, if the link type "license" would not exist (let's
put it that way), would be "natural" for a screen reader user to hear that
kind of info?
Thanks again!
Silvia
On 15 November 2014 17:54, Steve Faulkner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> See http://www.w3.org/TR/html/links.html#link-type-license
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>;
>
> On 15 November 2014 16:44, Silvia RodrÃguez Vázquez <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Do you think that it is appropriate to include copyright information in
> the
> > image text alternative? I have seen many websites doing so, even after an
> > appropriate text replacement for the image (e.g., alt="Man reading a book
> > in the park. Photo: Jean Dupond" or alt="Man reading a book in the
> park.
> > © Senses Studio). I was wondering if this was considered a good practice,
> > or if we should rather include it:
> > - as a title attribute's value?
> > - in the main body of the page?
> > - as an image caption?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your comments! Any insights on this would be highly
> > welcomed.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Silvia
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
From: Steve Faulkner
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2014 11:22AM
Subject: Re: Image copyright info - where to add it?
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Hi Silvia, suggest using this pattern for example:
<figure role="group" aria-label="Figure X (X being a unique identifier if
there are multiple photos in the same doc)">
<img alt="some text">
<figcaption>Man reading a book in the park.
© Senses Studio</figcaption>
</figure>
Through the use of ARIA the visually associated image and caption are
identified and programmatically associated.
--
Regards
SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>;
On 15 November 2014 18:00, Silvia RodrÃguez Vázquez <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> Thanks for the prompt response and direct reference. I see, however, that
> "authors must not include more than one main element in a document". What
> happens if the document has many images? (I am not yet super familiarised
> with the new recommendation, so please accept my apologies if I am asking
> too many silly questions).
>
> Related to this... In the last version of the doc "HTML5: Techniques for
> providing useful text alternatives", it says that the figure and figcaption
> elements are not currently accessibility supported by the majority of
> browsers. I understand from the same doc that, from now on, the alt
> attribute should be only used to label the image somehow. But the truth is
> that many of the webs out there probably still use it with the same purpose
> as before (as a textual replacement).
>
> I was actually looking for a more practical solution from the point of view
> of the end user, i.e., is it meaningful to have that info as part of the
> image description? Or, if the link type "license" would not exist (let's
> put it that way), would be "natural" for a screen reader user to hear that
> kind of info?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Silvia
>
>
>
> On 15 November 2014 17:54, Steve Faulkner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > See http://www.w3.org/TR/html/links.html#link-type-license
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > SteveF
> > HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>;
> >
> > On 15 November 2014 16:44, Silvia RodrÃguez Vázquez <
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > Do you think that it is appropriate to include copyright information in
> > the
> > > image text alternative? I have seen many websites doing so, even after
> an
> > > appropriate text replacement for the image (e.g., alt="Man reading a
> book
> > > in the park. Photo: Jean Dupond" or alt="Man reading a book in the
> > park.
> > > © Senses Studio). I was wondering if this was considered a good
> practice,
> > > or if we should rather include it:
> > > - as a title attribute's value?
> > > - in the main body of the page?
> > > - as an image caption?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for your comments! Any insights on this would be
> highly
> > > welcomed.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Silvia
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
From: Silvia Rodríguez Vázquez
Date: Sun, Nov 16 2014 8:34AM
Subject: Re: Image copyright info - where to add it?
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Hi Steve,
Thanks again.
Silvia
On 15 November 2014 19:22, Steve Faulkner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Silvia, suggest using this pattern for example:
>
> <figure role="group" aria-label="Figure X (X being a unique identifier if
> there are multiple photos in the same doc)">
> <img alt="some text">
> <figcaption>Man reading a book in the park.
> © Senses Studio</figcaption>
> </figure>
>
> Through the use of ARIA the visually associated image and caption are
> identified and programmatically associated.
>
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>;
>
> On 15 November 2014 18:00, Silvia RodrÃguez Vázquez <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > Thanks for the prompt response and direct reference. I see, however, that
> > "authors must not include more than one main element in a document". What
> > happens if the document has many images? (I am not yet super familiarised
> > with the new recommendation, so please accept my apologies if I am asking
> > too many silly questions).
> >
> > Related to this... In the last version of the doc "HTML5: Techniques for
> > providing useful text alternatives", it says that the figure and
> figcaption
> > elements are not currently accessibility supported by the majority of
> > browsers. I understand from the same doc that, from now on, the alt
> > attribute should be only used to label the image somehow. But the truth
> is
> > that many of the webs out there probably still use it with the same
> purpose
> > as before (as a textual replacement).
> >
> > I was actually looking for a more practical solution from the point of
> view
> > of the end user, i.e., is it meaningful to have that info as part of the
> > image description? Or, if the link type "license" would not exist (let's
> > put it that way), would be "natural" for a screen reader user to hear
> that
> > kind of info?
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > Silvia
> >
> >
> >
> > On 15 November 2014 17:54, Steve Faulkner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > See http://www.w3.org/TR/html/links.html#link-type-license
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > SteveF
> > > HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>;
> > >
> > > On 15 November 2014 16:44, Silvia RodrÃguez Vázquez <
> > > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > > Do you think that it is appropriate to include copyright information
> in
> > > the
> > > > image text alternative? I have seen many websites doing so, even
> after
> > an
> > > > appropriate text replacement for the image (e.g., alt="Man reading a
> > book
> > > > in the park. Photo: Jean Dupond" or alt="Man reading a book in the
> > > park.
> > > > © Senses Studio). I was wondering if this was considered a good
> > practice,
> > > > or if we should rather include it:
> > > > - as a title attribute's value?
> > > > - in the main body of the page?
> > > > - as an image caption?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance for your comments! Any insights on this would be
> > highly
> > > > welcomed.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Silvia
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > >