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From: kelly
Date: Tue, Oct 27 2015 2:59PM
Subject: Test Results From Tenon.io
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Hi All,



With more than one screen reader when I view test results from www.tenon.io
<http://www.tenon.io>; , I get part of the page that for me when browsing do
not make sense. I'm wondering if someone might be able to explain what I'm
missing. I didn't go hunting through the page source.



For example, running Tenon on Tenon, I get a series of numbers that indicate
they are alt text for graphics that read like the below. I've tried JAWS,
NVDA and Window-Eyes here. This text appears in the way all of these screen
readers present the content immediate before a table of actual errors.







Tests = 62

62

0

0

10

20

30

40

50

60

0

0.1

0.2

0.3

0.4

0.5

0.6

0.7

0.8

0.9

From: Jordan Wilson
Date: Tue, Oct 27 2015 3:52PM
Subject: Re: Test Results From Tenon.io
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Kelly,

The quick answer is that you¹re parsing an SVG that¹s showing a pie chart,
but the pie chart is all one color since all 62/62 issues are resolved.
I don¹t know why the multiples of ten or decimals are there, but they are
almost definitely unintentional as they have no visual counterpart.

I imagine the numbers might make more sense if the pie chart was showing
more than one option set but I haven¹t tested that.





On 10/27/15, 4:59 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = "
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>
>
>With more than one screen reader when I view test results from
>www.tenon.io
><http://www.tenon.io>; , I get part of the page that for me when browsing
>do
>not make sense. I'm wondering if someone might be able to explain what
>I'm
>missing. I didn't go hunting through the page source.
>
>
>
>For example, running Tenon on Tenon, I get a series of numbers that
>indicate
>they are alt text for graphics that read like the below. I've tried JAWS,
>NVDA and Window-Eyes here. This text appears in the way all of these
>screen
>readers present the content immediate before a table of actual errors.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Tests = 62
>
>62
>
>0
>
>0
>
>10
>
>20
>
>30
>
>40
>
>50
>
>60
>
>0
>
>0.1
>
>0.2
>
>0.3
>
>0.4
>
>0.5
>
>0.6
>
>0.7
>
>0.8
>
>0.9
>
>>>>

From: Karl Groves
Date: Tue, Oct 27 2015 4:16PM
Subject: Re: Test Results From Tenon.io
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Kelly,

Thanks for raising this. Can you email = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = with some
details so I can replicate what you experience and figure out what we
need to do to fix it?

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:59 PM, < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> With more than one screen reader when I view test results from www.tenon.io
> <http://www.tenon.io>; , I get part of the page that for me when browsing do
> not make sense. I'm wondering if someone might be able to explain what I'm
> missing. I didn't go hunting through the page source.
>
>
>
> For example, running Tenon on Tenon, I get a series of numbers that indicate
> they are alt text for graphics that read like the below. I've tried JAWS,
> NVDA and Window-Eyes here. This text appears in the way all of these screen
> readers present the content immediate before a table of actual errors.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tests = 62
>
> 62
>
> 0
>
> 0
>
> 10
>
> 20
>
> 30
>
> 40
>
> 50
>
> 60
>
> 0
>
> 0.1
>
> 0.2
>
> 0.3
>
> 0.4
>
> 0.5
>
> 0.6
>
> 0.7
>
> 0.8
>
> 0.9
>
> > > > --

Karl Groves
www.karlgroves.com
@karlgroves
http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
Phone: +1 410.541.6829

Modern Web Toolsets and Accessibility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks

www.tenon.io

From: Chaals McCathie Nevile
Date: Sun, Nov 01 2015 4:24AM
Subject: Re: Test Results From Tenon.io
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:16:25 +0900, Karl Groves < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Kelly,
>
> Thanks for raising this. Can you email = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = with some
> details so I can replicate what you experience and figure out what we
> need to do to fix it?

If you can share a copy of the result page, it sounds like this would be a
good example case for the work on making SVG accessible that is happening
on http://github.com/svg-access-w3cg/use-case-examples/ - we have looked
at a couple of graphs so far. We haven't done a pie chart, but I think it
is relatively simple.

In any event I'd be interested in playing around with this, and equally
pleased if you can do the playing and testing, and give us back a worked
example and some notes :)

Another useful piece of work in this area is Doug Scheper's discussion of
improving bar charts, which is related…
http://schepers.cc/authoring-accessible-svg

cheers

chaals

> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:59 PM, < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> With more than one screen reader when I view test results from
>> www.tenon.io
>> <http://www.tenon.io>; , I get part of the page that for me when
>> browsing do
>> not make sense. I'm wondering if someone might be able to explain what
>> I'm
>> missing. I didn't go hunting through the page source.
>>
>>
>>
>> For example, running Tenon on Tenon, I get a series of numbers that
>> indicate
>> they are alt text for graphics that read like the below. I've tried
>> JAWS,
>> NVDA and Window-Eyes here. This text appears in the way all of these
>> screen
>> readers present the content immediate before a table of actual errors.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tests = 62
>>
>> 62
>>
>> 0
>>
>> 0
>>
>> 10
>>
>> 20
>>
>> 30
>>
>> 40
>>
>> 50
>>
>> 60
>>
>> 0
>>
>> 0.1
>>
>> 0.2
>>
>> 0.3
>>
>> 0.4
>>
>> 0.5
>>
>> 0.6
>>
>> 0.7
>>
>> 0.8
>>
>> 0.9
>>
>> >> >> >> >
>
>


--
Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = - - - Find more at http://yandex.com

From: Jim Allan
Date: Mon, Nov 02 2015 7:42AM
Subject: Re: Test Results From Tenon.io
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the results page is easy.
go to tenon.io, put the tenon.io address in the box on the page, hit enter.
That's the results.


On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 5:24 AM, Chaals McCathie Nevile <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:16:25 +0900, Karl Groves < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> Kelly,
>>
>> Thanks for raising this. Can you email = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = with some
>> details so I can replicate what you experience and figure out what we
>> need to do to fix it?
>>
>
> If you can share a copy of the result page, it sounds like this would be a
> good example case for the work on making SVG accessible that is happening
> on http://github.com/svg-access-w3cg/use-case-examples/ - we have looked
> at a couple of graphs so far. We haven't done a pie chart, but I think it
> is relatively simple.
>
> In any event I'd be interested in playing around with this, and equally
> pleased if you can do the playing and testing, and give us back a worked
> example and some notes :)
>
> Another useful piece of work in this area is Doug Scheper's discussion of
> improving bar charts, which is related…
> http://schepers.cc/authoring-accessible-svg
>
> cheers
>
> chaals
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:59 PM, < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With more than one screen reader when I view test results from
>>> www.tenon.io
>>> <http://www.tenon.io>; , I get part of the page that for me when
>>> browsing do
>>> not make sense. I'm wondering if someone might be able to explain what
>>> I'm
>>> missing. I didn't go hunting through the page source.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For example, running Tenon on Tenon, I get a series of numbers that
>>> indicate
>>> they are alt text for graphics that read like the below. I've tried
>>> JAWS,
>>> NVDA and Window-Eyes here. This text appears in the way all of these
>>> screen
>>> readers present the content immediate before a table of actual errors.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tests = 62
>>>
>>> 62
>>>
>>> 0
>>>
>>> 0
>>>
>>> 10
>>>
>>> 20
>>>
>>> 30
>>>
>>> 40
>>>
>>> 50
>>>
>>> 60
>>>
>>> 0
>>>
>>> 0.1
>>>
>>> 0.2
>>>
>>> 0.3
>>>
>>> 0.4
>>>
>>> 0.5
>>>
>>> 0.6
>>>
>>> 0.7
>>>
>>> 0.8
>>>
>>> 0.9
>>>
>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = - - - Find more at http://yandex.com
>
> > > > >



--
Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator
Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
"We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964

From: Karl Groves
Date: Mon, Nov 02 2015 12:16PM
Subject: Re: Test Results From Tenon.io
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Chaals,

Give Asa Baylus a shout ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )
We're using C3 charts. We are passing data to the chart library as
JSON and using that to feed the data into the chart. It should also be
populating a data table. As Kelly pointed out, we have some work to
do to improve the charts' accessibility which I hope we can address
soon.

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 6:24 AM, Chaals McCathie Nevile
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:16:25 +0900, Karl Groves < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Kelly,
>>
>> Thanks for raising this. Can you email = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = with some
>> details so I can replicate what you experience and figure out what we
>> need to do to fix it?
>
>
> If you can share a copy of the result page, it sounds like this would be a
> good example case for the work on making SVG accessible that is happening on
> http://github.com/svg-access-w3cg/use-case-examples/ - we have looked at a
> couple of graphs so far. We haven't done a pie chart, but I think it is
> relatively simple.
>
> In any event I'd be interested in playing around with this, and equally
> pleased if you can do the playing and testing, and give us back a worked
> example and some notes :)
>
> Another useful piece of work in this area is Doug Scheper's discussion of
> improving bar charts, which is related…
> http://schepers.cc/authoring-accessible-svg
>
> cheers
>
> chaals
>
>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:59 PM, < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With more than one screen reader when I view test results from
>>> www.tenon.io
>>> <http://www.tenon.io>; , I get part of the page that for me when browsing
>>> do
>>> not make sense. I'm wondering if someone might be able to explain what
>>> I'm
>>> missing. I didn't go hunting through the page source.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For example, running Tenon on Tenon, I get a series of numbers that
>>> indicate
>>> they are alt text for graphics that read like the below. I've tried
>>> JAWS,
>>> NVDA and Window-Eyes here. This text appears in the way all of these
>>> screen
>>> readers present the content immediate before a table of actual errors.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tests = 62
>>>
>>> 62
>>>
>>> 0
>>>
>>> 0
>>>
>>> 10
>>>
>>> 20
>>>
>>> 30
>>>
>>> 40
>>>
>>> 50
>>>
>>> 60
>>>
>>> 0
>>>
>>> 0.1
>>>
>>> 0.2
>>>
>>> 0.3
>>>
>>> 0.4
>>>
>>> 0.5
>>>
>>> 0.6
>>>
>>> 0.7
>>>
>>> 0.8
>>>
>>> 0.9
>>>
>>> >>> >>> >>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = - - - Find more at http://yandex.com
>
> > > > --

Karl Groves
www.karlgroves.com
@karlgroves
http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
Phone: +1 410.541.6829

Modern Web Toolsets and Accessibility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq6Db47-Ks

www.tenon.io