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From: Alan Zaitchik
Date: Fri, May 13 2016 6:24AM
Subject: Directions about finding buttons and links on a page
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I have been asked about the following wording that might be used on a web page:
As you navigate through the case study, click the green "Click to listen to audio" button in the top left of the screen to listen to the exchange between Dr. Greene and Kelsey.
There is only one button on the page with that label, and the mention of "green" and "top left of the screen" is to help the sighted user find the button, not to identify it in a list of multiple buttons.
Is it adequate to identify the button by its label even though additional, visual descriptions are included?
I realize that the button text doesn't include specifics - it doesn't say "Click to listen to the exchange between Dr. Greene and Kelsey" even though I understand that this would be more desirable, but we may not have control over the dynamic generation of the link text at this late point in the project, just over the text of the instructions on the page. So my question right now is focused on the text of the instructions.
Thanks for your advice.
A
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Fri, May 13 2016 6:30AM
Subject: Re: Directions about finding buttons and links on a page
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This is perfectly adequate.
If the wording was "click the green button" you would be violating a
WCAG success criterion (as a party game, I leave it up to you to find
which one), and bloody useless to those who cannot identify the purest
green. But including a control by its name and visual characteristic
is a good and inclusive technique.
On 5/13/16, Alan Zaitchik < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> I have been asked about the following wording that might be used on a web
> page:
> As you navigate through the case study, click the green "Click to listen to
> audio" button in the top left of the screen to listen to the exchange
> between Dr. Greene and Kelsey.
> There is only one button on the page with that label, and the mention of
> "green" and "top left of the screen" is to help the sighted user find the
> button, not to identify it in a list of multiple buttons.
> Is it adequate to identify the button by its label even though additional,
> visual descriptions are included?
> I realize that the button text doesn't include specifics - it doesn't say
> "Click to listen to the exchange between Dr. Greene and Kelsey" even though
> I understand that this would be more desirable, but we may not have control
> over the dynamic generation of the link text at this late point in the
> project, just over the text of the instructions on the page. So my question
> right now is focused on the text of the instructions.
> Thanks for your advice.
> A
>
> > > > >
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From: David Farough
Date: Fri, May 13 2016 7:53AM
Subject: Re: Directions about finding buttons and links on a page
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You could also include a link to the transcript in the text.
However from my prospective as a screen reader user, I am not likely to
try to listen to the audio while listening to my screen reader speak the
text.
I realize though, that you can't please everybody.
David Farough
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gestion des TI
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From: Mike Barlow
Date: Fri, May 13 2016 8:15AM
Subject: Re: Directions about finding buttons and links on a page
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@Birkir that wouldn't happen to be SC 1.4.1 would it (likes party games
like this *wink*). And I've always appreciated not having to worry about
looking for "colored" objects myself being color blind
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On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 9:53 AM, David Farough < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
> You could also include a link to the transcript in the text.
> However from my prospective as a screen reader user, I am not likely to
> try to listen to the audio while listening to my screen reader speak the
> text.
> I realize though, that you can't please everybody.
>
>
> David Farough
>
> Coordonnateur de l'accessibilité des applications, Services intégrés de
> gestion des TI
> Commission de la fonction publique du Canada / Gouvernement du Canada
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = Tél: 819-420-8418 Télécopieur :
> 819-420-8408
>
> Application Accessibility Co-ordinator, Corporate IT Management
> Public Service Commission of Canada / Government of Canada
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = Tel: 819-420-8418 / Fax: 819-420-8408
>
>
>
>
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From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Date: Fri, May 13 2016 10:15AM
Subject: Re: Directions about finding buttons and links on a page
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Hello,
You could say something like "please click the only button on the page
which is green and on the top left of the screen".
This would tell a screen reader user to click the button, but chances are
they already saw the button as they arrowed down through the page to get to
the directions. If the button is labeled correctly, there should not even
need to be instructions for the screen reader user.
Thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 5:24 AM, Alan Zaitchik < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
> I have been asked about the following wording that might be used on a web
> page:
> As you navigate through the case study, click the green "Click to listen
> to audio" button in the top left of the screen to listen to the exchange
> between Dr. Greene and Kelsey.
> There is only one button on the page with that label, and the mention of
> "green" and "top left of the screen" is to help the sighted user find the
> button, not to identify it in a list of multiple buttons.
> Is it adequate to identify the button by its label even though additional,
> visual descriptions are included?
> I realize that the button text doesn't include specifics - it doesn't say
> "Click to listen to the exchange between Dr. Greene and Kelsey" even though
> I understand that this would be more desirable, but we may not have control
> over the dynamic generation of the link text at this late point in the
> project, just over the text of the instructions on the page. So my question
> right now is focused on the text of the instructions.
> Thanks for your advice.
> A
>
> > > > >
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Fri, May 13 2016 3:40PM
Subject: Re: Directions about finding buttons and links on a page
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Yeap, 1.4.1, 1.3.3 is a very similar SC (it partly applies if you
refer to a location on the screen), but use of color is 1.4.1
I would not say something like "the only button on the page".
Webpages are so dynamic that that info could change, (e.g. if you
added a social sharing widget to the page), and people may forget to
update the instructions.
On 5/13/16, Brandon Keith Biggs < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hello,
> You could say something like "please click the only button on the page
> which is green and on the top left of the screen".
> This would tell a screen reader user to click the button, but chances are
> they already saw the button as they arrowed down through the page to get to
> the directions. If the button is labeled correctly, there should not even
> need to be instructions for the screen reader user.
> Thanks,
>
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 5:24 AM, Alan Zaitchik < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
>> I have been asked about the following wording that might be used on a web
>> page:
>> As you navigate through the case study, click the green "Click to listen
>> to audio" button in the top left of the screen to listen to the exchange
>> between Dr. Greene and Kelsey.
>> There is only one button on the page with that label, and the mention of
>> "green" and "top left of the screen" is to help the sighted user find the
>> button, not to identify it in a list of multiple buttons.
>> Is it adequate to identify the button by its label even though additional,
>> visual descriptions are included?
>> I realize that the button text doesn't include specifics - it doesn't say
>> "Click to listen to the exchange between Dr. Greene and Kelsey" even
>> though
>> I understand that this would be more desirable, but we may not have
>> control
>> over the dynamic generation of the link text at this late point in the
>> project, just over the text of the instructions on the page. So my
>> question
>> right now is focused on the text of the instructions.
>> Thanks for your advice.
>> A
>>
>> >> >> >> >>
> > > > >
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From: Alan Zaitchik
Date: Fri, May 13 2016 5:23PM
Subject: Re: Directions about finding buttons and links on a page
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Thank you to all who responded. It was most helpful to get this advice.
A
On 5/13/16, 5:40 PM, "Birkir R. Gunnarsson" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
>Yeap, 1.4.1, 1.3.3 is a very similar SC (it partly applies if you
>refer to a location on the screen), but use of color is 1.4.1
>I would not say something like "the only button on the page".
>Webpages are so dynamic that that info could change, (e.g. if you
>added a social sharing widget to the page), and people may forget to
>update the instructions.
>
>
>
>On 5/13/16, Brandon Keith Biggs < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> Hello,
>> You could say something like "please click the only button on the page
>> which is green and on the top left of the screen".
>> This would tell a screen reader user to click the button, but chances
>>are
>> they already saw the button as they arrowed down through the page to
>>get to
>> the directions. If the button is labeled correctly, there should not
>>even
>> need to be instructions for the screen reader user.
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
>>
>> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 5:24 AM, Alan Zaitchik < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have been asked about the following wording that might be used on a
>>>web
>>> page:
>>> As you navigate through the case study, click the green "Click to
>>>listen
>>> to audio" button in the top left of the screen to listen to the
>>>exchange
>>> between Dr. Greene and Kelsey.
>>> There is only one button on the page with that label, and the mention
>>>of
>>> "green" and "top left of the screen" is to help the sighted user find
>>>the
>>> button, not to identify it in a list of multiple buttons.
>>> Is it adequate to identify the button by its label even though
>>>additional,
>>> visual descriptions are included?
>>> I realize that the button text doesn't include specifics - it doesn't
>>>say
>>> "Click to listen to the exchange between Dr. Greene and Kelsey" even
>>> though
>>> I understand that this would be more desirable, but we may not have
>>> control
>>> over the dynamic generation of the link text at this late point in the
>>> project, just over the text of the instructions on the page. So my
>>> question
>>> right now is focused on the text of the instructions.
>>> Thanks for your advice.
>>> A
>>>
>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>
>
>
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>Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>