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From: Farough, David (CFP/PSC)
Date: Wed, Feb 13 2019 11:23AM
Subject: Nuance Power pdf or Foxit
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Check out the following link for our choices for PDF remediation.
http://service.ssc-spc.gc.ca/en/news/communiques/pdf-application-20190108

Is there an obvious choice here for creating or repairing Accessible tagged PDF documents?

I have looked at Nuance pages as well as information for the Foxit offerings, and have not seen any mention of the tags tree or accessibility at all.
Thanks

David Farough
Application Accessibility Co-ordinator
Information Technology Services Directorate
Public Service Commission of Canada / Government of Canada
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From: Philip Kiff
Date: Wed, Feb 13 2019 11:44AM
Subject: Re: Nuance Power pdf or Foxit
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I can't get to that server. Is the Gov site down or is that possibly a
restricted area?:
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/service.ssc-spc.gc.ca

Phil.

On 2019-02-13 1:23 PM, Farough, David (CFP/PSC) wrote:
> Check out the following link for our choices for PDF remediation.
> http://service.ssc-spc.gc.ca/en/news/communiques/pdf-application-20190108
>
> Is there an obvious choice here for creating or repairing Accessible tagged PDF documents?
>
> I have looked at Nuance pages as well as information for the Foxit offerings, and have not seen any mention of the tags tree or accessibility at all.
> Thanks
>
> David Farough
> Application Accessibility Co-ordinator
> Information Technology Services Directorate
> Public Service Commission of Canada / Government of Canada
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =  / Tel: 819-420-8418
>
>
>
>
>
> > > >

From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Wed, Feb 13 2019 1:33PM
Subject: Re: Nuance Power pdf or Foxit
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Is the choice only between these two particular prodcuts, or are you
looking at PdF remediation solutions more broadly?
Do you have the people on hand who can be trained and can do the
remediation using desktop tools or do you want to have a vendor do as
much of this as possible?
Thanks

On 2/13/19, Philip Kiff < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> I can't get to that server. Is the Gov site down or is that possibly a
> restricted area?:
> https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/service.ssc-spc.gc.ca
>
> Phil.
>
> On 2019-02-13 1:23 PM, Farough, David (CFP/PSC) wrote:
>> Check out the following link for our choices for PDF remediation.
>> http://service.ssc-spc.gc.ca/en/news/communiques/pdf-application-20190108
>>
>> Is there an obvious choice here for creating or repairing Accessible
>> tagged PDF documents?
>>
>> I have looked at Nuance pages as well as information for the Foxit
>> offerings, and have not seen any mention of the tags tree or accessibility
>> at all.
>> Thanks
>>
>> David Farough
>> Application Accessibility Co-ordinator
>> Information Technology Services Directorate
>> Public Service Commission of Canada / Government of Canada
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =  / Tel: 819-420-8418
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> >> >> > > > > >


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From: chagnon
Date: Wed, Feb 13 2019 1:50PM
Subject: Re: Nuance Power pdf or Foxit
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David wrote: "I have looked at Nuance pages as well as information for the
Foxit offerings, and have not seen any mention of the tags tree or
accessibility at all."

If a software program (or cloud/web service) doesn't mention accessibility,
tags, or anything else needed for accessibility, then the product doesn't
create accessible PDFs.

Makes it very easy to separate the wheat from the chaff.

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From: Farough, David (CFP/PSC)
Date: Thu, Feb 14 2019 7:35AM
Subject: Re: Nuance Power pdf or Foxit
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Hi Birkir:

The choice seems to be between Nuance and Foxit.

Shared services provides common services and applications to a large number of Canadian Government departments.
It is up to each department to create their documents and web pages according to WCAG 2.0 and other applicable standards.

This is the text I was referring to on the shared services link.
*snip*


Changes in PDF Application Provisioning



January 8, 2019









What:

As of May 2019, the Adobe Acrobat PDF application will no longer be available to SSC customers. Customer organizations currently using Adobe Acrobat will need to migrate to one of two alternate PDF applications.

When:

Before May 24, 2019

Who:

This change will impact all SSC customers using Adobe Acrobat.

How:

In the fall of 2018, SSC established standing offers with two alternate PDF application service providers, Nuance and Foxit.

To ensure SSC customers adopt these new tools, the Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat (TBS) Office of the CIO of Canada (OCIO) is requesting that departments report on their current use of Adobe Acrobat application licences. Departments should complete the attached form and return it to the OCIO by January 25, 2019.

Should you require an exemption from migration, please contact SSC at = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = to discuss your requirements.

SSC will host a CIO Roundtable in the new year to provide you with further information on this change in service. OCIO will also be available to answer your questions. The Client Executive team will share meeting details with you shortly.

Why:

The switch to alternate PDF application service providers will generate significant savings for the Government of Canada.

For further information, please contact your Client Executive.



Respectfully,

José Gendron
Acting Associate Assistant Deputy Minister
Shared Services Canada
*end of text*

It seems to me that the bean counters are winning.

I don't think they have considered what this change might mean in terms of our document accessibility.

Maybe they have forgotten that the inaccessibility of government PDF documents figured prominently in a law suit a few years ago.

From: Joseph Sherman
Date: Thu, Feb 14 2019 8:15AM
Subject: Re: Nuance Power pdf or Foxit
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Nuance has accessibility and tagging information at their website<https://www.nuance.com/products/help/NuancePDF/en_US/Accessibility_checker.htm>. It looks like their "Power PDF Advanced" version supports accessibility checking and tagging/editing<https://www.nuance.com/products/help/NuancePDF/en_US/tagged_pdf.htm>. I've never used it.



Foxit Phantom PDF allows you check the accessibility<https://www.foxitsoftware.com/blog/creating-accessible-pdf-documents/> of your documents and print an Accessibility Report if need-be. It doesn't say whether you can edit tags.



Commercial software for PDF accessibility includes CommonLook PDF, which requires Adobe Acrobat DC/Pro, and axesPDF QuickFix which I believe works as a stand-alone product.



Hope this helps.





Joseph