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From: Dona Patrick
Date: Thu, May 02 2019 12:55PM
Subject: Mobile accessibility training and another question
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Does anyone know of good mobile (not app) accessibility training that is
available either in the DC area or online?

Speaking of mobile accessibility -- is it expected behavior to have
VoiceOver read links that are behind an open menu when using the swipe
down/up gesture or should only the visible links (menu items) be read?

See -- I really do need that training!

Dona

From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Thu, May 02 2019 1:02PM
Subject: Re: Mobile accessibility training and another question
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HI

I've found the Deque University native mobile app accessibility
courses to be pretty good ($45 each for Android and iOS, just go to
http://www.dequeuniversity.com, click on classes and online classes).

I don't know of any workshops unless you commission one for your own
group. I"m sure most of the vendors do this, I know Deque does, we
found their course to be pretty good.
I've seen all of Deque, Level Access and TPG offer online webinars
with emphasis on mobile apps accessibility, all are good, I am sure.
Re your question, if the links are not visible or actionable on the
screen you probably need to hide them. There is a way to hide content
from accessibility, at least on iOS. I have to dig around a bit to see
exactly how.
I hope this helps a bit.


On 5/2/19, Dona Patrick < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Does anyone know of good mobile (not app) accessibility training that is
> available either in the DC area or online?
>
> Speaking of mobile accessibility -- is it expected behavior to have
> VoiceOver read links that are behind an open menu when using the swipe
> down/up gesture or should only the visible links (menu items) be read?
>
> See -- I really do need that training!
>
> Dona
> > > > >


--
Work hard. Have fun. Make history.

From: Dona Patrick
Date: Thu, May 02 2019 1:13PM
Subject: Re: Mobile accessibility training and another question
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Thanks, Birkir. I actually am signed up for the full content with Deque
University (my second time around -- I guess my retention is not so good).
I will check it out.

And thanks for the answer. I suspected as much. I noticed that on the web
site in question the links behind the menu, when open, are tabbable when
the browser is made smaller, like a mobile device.

Dona

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:02 PM Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> HI
>
> I've found the Deque University native mobile app accessibility
> courses to be pretty good ($45 each for Android and iOS, just go to
> http://www.dequeuniversity.com, click on classes and online classes).
>
> I don't know of any workshops unless you commission one for your own
> group. I"m sure most of the vendors do this, I know Deque does, we
> found their course to be pretty good.
> I've seen all of Deque, Level Access and TPG offer online webinars
> with emphasis on mobile apps accessibility, all are good, I am sure.
> Re your question, if the links are not visible or actionable on the
> screen you probably need to hide them. There is a way to hide content
> from accessibility, at least on iOS. I have to dig around a bit to see
> exactly how.
> I hope this helps a bit.
>
>
> On 5/2/19, Dona Patrick < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Does anyone know of good mobile (not app) accessibility training that is
> > available either in the DC area or online?
> >
> > Speaking of mobile accessibility -- is it expected behavior to have
> > VoiceOver read links that are behind an open menu when using the swipe
> > down/up gesture or should only the visible links (menu items) be read?
> >
> > See -- I really do need that training!
> >
> > Dona
> > > > > > > > > >
>
>
> --
> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > > > >

From: joe
Date: Thu, May 02 2019 3:32PM
Subject: Re: Mobile accessibility training and another question
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Here is a way to hide content of both Android and iOS

Android:
https://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/View.html#attr_android:
importantForAccessibility

iOS:
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiaccessibilityelement/16195
80-isaccessibilityelement

I work for TPG and give native mobile app accessibility trainings/webinars.

Joe Humbert

From: Dona Patrick
Date: Thu, May 02 2019 3:36PM
Subject: Re: Mobile accessibility training and another question
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Thanks Joe. Very helpful. I'm putting you on my list.

On Thu, May 2, 2019, 5:33 PM < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Here is a way to hide content of both Android and iOS
>
> Android:
> https://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/View.html#attr_android
> :
> importantForAccessibility
>
> iOS:
>
> https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiaccessibilityelement/16195
> 80-isaccessibilityelement
> <https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiaccessibilityelement/1619580-isaccessibilityelement>
>
> I work for TPG and give native mobile app accessibility trainings/webinars.
>
> Joe Humbert
>
>

From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Thu, May 02 2019 3:57PM
Subject: Re: Mobile accessibility training and another question
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Yes, I saw an announcement for the mobile apps accessibility webinar
by Joe, I put it on my "things I really want to attend" list, but
things have been a bit crazy this week. I hope I didn't miss it,
because I really want to attend it along with a couple of developers
from my team.


On 5/2/19, Dona Patrick < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Thanks Joe. Very helpful. I'm putting you on my list.
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019, 5:33 PM < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Here is a way to hide content of both Android and iOS
>>
>> Android:
>> https://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/View.html#attr_android
>> :
>> importantForAccessibility
>>
>> iOS:
>>
>> https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiaccessibilityelement/16195
>> 80-isaccessibilityelement
>> <https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiaccessibilityelement/1619580-isaccessibilityelement>
>>
>> I work for TPG and give native mobile app accessibility
>> trainings/webinars.
>>
>> Joe Humbert
>>
>>

From: joe
Date: Thu, May 02 2019 4:13PM
Subject: Re: Mobile accessibility training and another question
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You didn't miss it, it is on Tuesday, May 14th at12pm EST.

https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_EZHzHqTXTAKrtRdfuQVuDA

I'm apparently not very good at self-promotion...lol

From: Pat Reynolds
Date: Fri, May 03 2019 2:44AM
Subject: Re: Mobile accessibility training and another question
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Hi Joe,

Is this open to everyone, and what is the cost?

Cheers,

Pat

Executive Director, Free UK Genealogy

On Thu, 2 May 2019, 23:13 , < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> You didn't miss it, it is on Tuesday, May 14th at12pm EST.
>
> https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_EZHzHqTXTAKrtRdfuQVuDA
>
> I'm apparently not very good at self-promotion...lol
>
>

From: joe
Date: Fri, May 03 2019 7:04AM
Subject: Re: Mobile accessibility training and another question
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Hi Pat,

It is open to everyone and the cost is free. (partial disclosure due to lack
of knowledge: but I think your contact info might get added to TPG's
marketing lists so not totally free)

Thankx, Joe

From: Dona Patrick
Date: Mon, May 06 2019 9:03AM
Subject: Re: Mobile accessibility training and another question
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Thanks Joe. Just now saw this. I will pass it on.

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 5:33 PM < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Here is a way to hide content of both Android and iOS
>
> Android:
> https://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/View.html#attr_android
> :
> importantForAccessibility
>
> iOS:
>
> https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiaccessibilityelement/16195
> 80-isaccessibilityelement
> <https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiaccessibilityelement/1619580-isaccessibilityelement>
>
> I work for TPG and give native mobile app accessibility trainings/webinars.
>
> Joe Humbert
>
>