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From: Lucy GRECO
Date: Tue, Aug 27 2019 11:31AM
Subject: 360 views
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hello:
has any one worked with 360 pictures and how to make them more
accessible.
i am getting a lot of push from one of our users that wants to post them
on there web site and i know nothing about how to make them work. the
samples i was sent have a lot of clickable clickable anownsments with
NVDA and in jaws they only show a + and _ when i try clicking them i
get thrown out of the browser. so frankly i think these faill all a
round but i am hoping someone can give me a work a round or viewer i
can rec amend. thanks
Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces

From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Tue, Aug 27 2019 11:54AM
Subject: Re: 360 views
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Whether or not it's possible to make 360 views accessible really depends
on the specific way in which these 360 views have been implemented.
There is no one standard way of achieving these.

There are also different levels/aspects here to consider, as with most
regular web content, including - but not limited to:

- for sighted keyboard users, ensure that the view can be operated using
a keyboard
- for colour blind/low vision users, ensure that whatever controls etc.
are provided have sufficient contrast
- unsurprisingly the most complex, ensure that low or no vision users
can operate these controls with AT and have an
understandable/appropriate experience

On that last point, it's worth (as with things like interactive maps as
well) taking a step back and understanding what it is that the 360 view
is actually trying to convey/do. Is it purely decorative, or just there
to, say, give a 360 product shot? If so, it's arguably not too
problematic (depending on the tech used etc) to make this reasonably
accessible to AT users, as long as it's conveyed correctly that this is
a 360 product shot. Does the view also include hotspots that then
provide a description of a particular feature of a product, for
instance? Then, it should be possible for AT users to just navigate
through a list of these features without requiring them to
rotate/manipulate the view first (worst case, providing a separate list
of features somewhere adjacent?). Most complex would be 360 views which
actually try to give a virtual tour or similar, with hotspots that
present information but also act as jumping points to other views. At
that point, I'd even suggest that perhaps a complete separate, non-360
alternative would be preferable for AT users?

So, sorry, a long-winded way of saying "it depends".

P
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From: Joshue O Connor - InterAccess
Date: Tue, Aug 27 2019 1:36PM
Subject: Re: 360 views
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Hi Lucy,

While not a direct answer but related.. there is some interesting work
going on in the area of accessible 360, for example the Imac Project. [1]

With the Uni of Barcelona/Transmedia and others (Uni of Salford also
Patricks old manor). They have done a lot of user testing in the 360
space, with people with disabilities. There is also the i2Cat conference
next year which looks really interesting. [2]

HTH

[1] http://www.imac-project.eu

[2] https://www.i2cat.net/i2cat-host-acm-tvx-2020/

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Joshue O Connor
Director | InterAccess.ie

From: Lucy GRECO
Date: Tue, Aug 27 2019 2:45PM
Subject: Re: 360 views
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thanks to both of you unfortunily its the vertual ture option i am
working with here. the viewer they want to use is not keyboard
accessable and the only thing i can think of for now is aria hiddin
for screen readers. the discription the person wanting to use this has
givin is vary vary good its just getting past that clickable clickable
stuff smile lucy
Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces



On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:37 PM Joshue O Connor - InterAccess <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi Lucy,
>
> While not a direct answer but related.. there is some interesting work
> going on in the area of accessible 360, for example the Imac Project. [1]
>
> With the Uni of Barcelona/Transmedia and others (Uni of Salford also
> Patricks old manor). They have done a lot of user testing in the 360
> space, with people with disabilities. There is also the i2Cat conference
> next year which looks really interesting. [2]
>
> HTH
>
> [1] http://www.imac-project.eu
>
> [2] https://www.i2cat.net/i2cat-host-acm-tvx-2020/
>
> --
> Joshue O Connor
> Director | InterAccess.ie
> > > > >

From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Date: Tue, Aug 27 2019 2:48PM
Subject: Re: 360 views
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Hello,
If you are at all interested in accessible 360, please join the WebXR spec
project and help shape the future XR experience to be as accessible as
possible.
Right now we are working on making the spec not so visual:
https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr/issues/815
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;


On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 1:46 PM Lucy GRECO < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> thanks to both of you unfortunily its the vertual ture option i am
> working with here. the viewer they want to use is not keyboard
> accessable and the only thing i can think of for now is aria hiddin
> for screen readers. the discription the person wanting to use this has
> givin is vary vary good its just getting past that clickable clickable
> stuff smile lucy
> Lucia Greco
> Web Accessibility Evangelist
> IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
> University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:37 PM Joshue O Connor - InterAccess <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > Hi Lucy,
> >
> > While not a direct answer but related.. there is some interesting work
> > going on in the area of accessible 360, for example the Imac Project. [1]
> >
> > With the Uni of Barcelona/Transmedia and others (Uni of Salford also
> > Patricks old manor). They have done a lot of user testing in the 360
> > space, with people with disabilities. There is also the i2Cat conference
> > next year which looks really interesting. [2]
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > [1] http://www.imac-project.eu
> >
> > [2] https://www.i2cat.net/i2cat-host-acm-tvx-2020/
> >
> > --
> > Joshue O Connor
> > Director | InterAccess.ie
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >