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From: Wing Kuet
Date: Tue, Aug 10 2021 8:49AM
Subject: Should there be persistent visible text labels for search buttons or burger menu buttons?
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Does anyone have a view of whether a search magnifying image button next to=
a textbox should have a persistent visible text label?
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Also should there be a persistent visible text label for a burger menu butt=
on that usually appears by itself when a page is zoomed in?
[Icon Description automatically generated]

Regards,

Wing Kuet
Accessibility Consultant & Software Tester
Test Partners Ltd
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From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Tue, Aug 10 2021 9:08AM
Subject: Re: Should there be persistent visible text labels for search buttons or burger menu buttons?
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On 10/08/2021 15:49, Wing Kuet wrote:
> Does anyone have a view of whether a search magnifying image button next to a textbox should have a persistent visible text label?
> [cid:image001.jpg@01D78DFF.4138FE30]
>
>
> Also should there be a persistent visible text label for a burger menu button that usually appears by itself when a page is zoomed in?
> [Icon Description automatically generated]

In the normative/WCAG sense, no. From a more general usability point of
view, there will be those that argue that icons on their own by their
very nature are more difficult to understand than something with text,
while others will argue that they're "common" enough to be
understandable even for people with cognitive disabilities, through
sheer attrition/use. I personally fall in the latter camp.

P
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From: glen walker
Date: Tue, Aug 10 2021 9:23AM
Subject: Re: Should there be persistent visible text labels for search buttons or burger menu buttons?
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Although non-normative, I *thought* one of the "understanding" sections
mentioned that an icon/image could be used as the "label" of a field,
assuming the image has alternative text (1.1.1), but I can't find the
reference now (but didn't look very hard either :-)). I checked 3.3.2 and
2.4.6.

I typically allow it when I review a website.

From: Max ability
Date: Tue, Aug 17 2021 8:09PM
Subject: Re: Should there be persistent visible text labels for search buttons or burger menu buttons?
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Hi Glen,
I think this is what you might be referring to.
G167:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Techniques/general/G167

Rakesh

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 8:54 PM glen walker < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Although non-normative, I *thought* one of the "understanding" sections
> mentioned that an icon/image could be used as the "label" of a field,
> assuming the image has alternative text (1.1.1), but I can't find the
> reference now (but didn't look very hard either :-)). I checked 3.3.2 and
> 2.4.6.
>
> I typically allow it when I review a website.
> > > > >

From: glen walker
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2021 2:34PM
Subject: Re: Should there be persistent visible text labels for search buttons or burger menu buttons?
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Thanks for posting, Rakesh, but that's not the reference. Besides, G167
talks about having a *text* label on a button next to a field. I was
talking about having an *icon* on a button next to a field.

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 8:09 PM Max ability < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Hi Glen,
> I think this is what you might be referring to.
> G167:
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Techniques/general/G167
>
> Rakesh
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 8:54 PM glen walker < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > Although non-normative, I *thought* one of the "understanding" sections
> > mentioned that an icon/image could be used as the "label" of a field,
> > assuming the image has alternative text (1.1.1), but I can't find the
> > reference now (but didn't look very hard either :-)). I checked 3.3.2
> and
> > 2.4.6.
> >
> > I typically allow it when I review a website.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >