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From: Steve Green
Date: Wed, Jun 09 2021 6:20PM
Subject: Section 508 and retail outlets in the US
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Does anyone know if Section 508 contains any requirements that apply to retail outlets, other than the requirement to comply with WCAG 2.0 AA?
I am pretty sure there are no such additional requirements, but I want to be sure because I know there are additional requirements for some sectors such as schools and hotels.
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From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Wed, Jun 09 2021 6:30PM
Subject: Re: Section 508 and retail outlets in the US
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Section 508 only applies to the federal government. Unless the government
sets up a retail store, 508 wouldn't apply. The ada would apply.
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Ryan E. Benson
On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 8:20 PM Steve Green < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
> Does anyone know if Section 508 contains any requirements that apply to
> retail outlets, other than the requirement to comply with WCAG 2.0 AA?
>
> I am pretty sure there are no such additional requirements, but I want to
> be sure because I know there are additional requirements for some sectors
> such as schools and hotels.
>
> Regards,
> Steve Green
> Managing Director
> Test Partners Ltd
> 020 3002 4176 (direct)
> 0800 612 2780 (switchboard)
> 07957 246 276 (mobile)
> 020 7692 5517 (fax)
> Skype: testpartners
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> www.testpartners.co.uk
>
> Connect to me on LinkedIn - http://uk.linkedin.com/in/stevegreen2
>
> > > > >
From: Andrews, David B (DEED)
Date: Thu, Jun 10 2021 7:15AM
Subject: Re: Section 508 and retail outlets in the US
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Section 508 of the Rehab Act also applies to some entities that receive federal funding, like colleges and universities. Retail would not be one of these though.
Dave
From: Vaughn, Michael
Date: Thu, Jun 10 2021 7:27AM
Subject: Re: Section 508 and retail outlets in the US
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This is a common misconception. Section 508 does NOT generally apply to colleges and universities. Section 504 does apply to any college and university that receives federal funding like Title IV financial aid, but of course Section 504, like the ADA, does not specify specific standards covered entities must follow. Section 508 would apply to a college or university only if a specific school adopted it as a standard, or if a state adopted it into state law. It could also apply to individuals or groups who are contracted by the federal government to create technology on behalf of the federal government.
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Date: Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Section 508 and retail outlets in the US
Section 508 of the Rehab Act also applies to some entities that receive federal funding, like colleges and universities. Retail would not be one of these though.
Dave
From: Jonathan C. Cohn
Date: Thu, Jun 10 2021 7:50AM
Subject: Re: Section 508 and retail outlets in the US
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the writing of section 508 specifically talks about Federal government procurement. The Virginia comonwealth webpages indicate that the state uses 508 which I expect includes Virginia state schools. I believe other stbbtates somehow include the federal statue in their state rules:
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> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Vaughn, Michael < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
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> This is a common misconception. Section 508 does NOT generally apply to colleges and universities. Section 504 does apply to any college and university that receives federal funding like Title IV financial aid, but of course Section 504, like the ADA, does not specify specific standards covered entities must follow. Section 508 would apply to a college or university only if a specific school adopted it as a standard, or if a state adopted it into state law. It could also apply to individuals or groups who are contracted by the federal government to create technology on behalf of the federal government.
>
> _____
> Michael Vaughn (he/him/his)
> Associate Director of Digital Accessibility
> Yale University, Information Technology Services
> 25 Science Park, 542 | 203.432.9620
> accessibility.yale.edu<http://accessibility.yale.edu/>;
>
>
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > on behalf of Andrews, David B (DEED) < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Date: Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:16 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Section 508 and retail outlets in the US
> Section 508 of the Rehab Act also applies to some entities that receive federal funding, like colleges and universities. Retail would not be one of these though.
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> Dave
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From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Thu, Jun 10 2021 9:18AM
Subject: Re: Section 508 and retail outlets in the US
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504 applies to states, and that allows states to determine how they meet
that requirement. 508 ouitlines the standards that must be met. Some states
adopted 508 directly for ease since most states use federal funds to do
stuff. Others adopted WCAG directly instead of the old 508 standards. A
sub-set of states adopted a hybrid approach. The lines were blurred
post-2018 since 508 adopted wcag 2.0.
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Ryan E. Benson
On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 9:51 AM Jonathan C. Cohn < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
> the writing of section 508 specifically talks about Federal government
> procurement. The Virginia comonwealth webpages indicate that the state uses
> 508 which I expect includes Virginia state schools. I believe other
> stbbtates somehow include the federal statue in their state rules:
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Vaughn, Michael < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
> >
> > This is a common misconception. Section 508 does NOT generally apply to
> colleges and universities. Section 504 does apply to any college and
> university that receives federal funding like Title IV financial aid, but
> of course Section 504, like the ADA, does not specify specific standards
> covered entities must follow. Section 508 would apply to a college or
> university only if a specific school adopted it as a standard, or if a
> state adopted it into state law. It could also apply to individuals or
> groups who are contracted by the federal government to create technology on
> behalf of the federal government.
> >
> > _____
> > Michael Vaughn (he/him/his)
> > Associate Director of Digital Accessibility
> > Yale University, Information Technology Services
> > 25 Science Park, 542 | 203.432.9620
> > accessibility.yale.edu<http://accessibility.yale.edu/>;
> >
> >
> > From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > on behalf of
> Andrews, David B (DEED) < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Date: Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:16 AM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Section 508 and retail outlets in the US
> > Section 508 of the Rehab Act also applies to some entities that receive
> federal funding, like colleges and universities. Retail would not be one of
> these though.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
From: Steve Green
Date: Fri, Jun 11 2021 9:43AM
Subject: Re: Section 508 and retail outlets in the US
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Thanks to everyone who has responded. It is clear that Section 508 does not apply to retail outlets.
It turns out that one of my previous statements was incorrect. It's ADA that has a specific requirement relating to hotels. It relates to "reservations made by any means", so it applies to websites even though they are not specifically mentioned.
It's clause § 36.302 (e), which you can see at https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/36.302#e
Steve
From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Fri, Jun 11 2021 10:07AM
Subject: Re: Section 508 and retail outlets in the US
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Yes, there are some details around accessibility features in hotels that are required under the ADA but the level of detailed required to be on the site may be limited per the decision below:
https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/two-hotels-secure-dismissals-of-hotel-7320542/
Jonathan
From: Steve Green
Date: Sat, Jun 12 2021 11:42AM
Subject: Re: Section 508 and retail outlets in the US
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Those rulings are encouraging. I love the idea that parasite lawyers have spent thousands of hours and significant money filing 450 law suits that are potentially all going to get tossed out.
That said, the ADA requirements for hotels include other requirements that can be very difficult to meet, so the lawyers may just switch their attention to those.
Steve