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Thread: Where should focus be on page load?
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From: Mark Magennis
Date: Mon, Dec 06 2021 3:29AM
Subject: Where should focus be on page load?
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I'd be interested in hearing the opinions of screen reader users or those w=
ho are very familiar with screen reader users' experiences about where focu=
s should be when a page loads. I see this as a usability issue rather than =
a compliance one.
The way I've always looked at this is that when a new 'page' is opened - ei=
ther a new URL or, in a single page application, a new distinct functional =
chunk (vague I know), focus should normally go to the top of the page. This=
helps with predictability and consistency. Only in exceptional circumstanc=
es should focus be moved to somewhere else such as the start of the unique =
page content.
In my thinking, exceptional circumstances are when the user is engaged in a=
predictable workflow, where the current step leaves focus somewhere distan=
t from the content the user will predictably need to read or interact with =
next. An example is a site search that opens a search results page. It is p=
redictable that after submitting the search the user will want to immediate=
ly read the results. It's hard to imagine a scenario when this will not be =
the case. So when the search results page open, it is helpful to place focu=
s at the start of the results, usually on a results statement such as "Show=
ing 20 of 1,483 results for xxxxx". Other predictable workflows occur withi=
n multi-step processes such as purchasing or ticket booking where at each s=
tep the user will always want to go to the start of the step instructions o=
r inputs. So it is helpful to place them there when the step is loaded.
Am I looking at this the right way, or is it helpful to place focus at the =
start of the unique content more often, even on most pages perhaps?
Aside from page loads, content changes with predictable workflows seem to o=
ccur whenever hidden content is revealed or new content is added to a page.=
For example, if a 'Show Table of Contents' button is used to open a conten=
t navigation panel should focus be moved to the panel because it is predict=
able that the user will want to use it (why would they have opened it other=
wise)? Or when an 'Add New Record' button in a table toolbar causes a new r=
ow to be added to the table containing fields that need to be filled in. It=
seems predictable that the user will want to immediately fill them in, so =
should focus always be moved to the first field in the newly added row?
Would be very interested to hear users' preferences. Thanks,
Mark
Mark Magennis (he/him)
Senior Accessibility Specialist
Skillsoft | mobile: +353 87 60 60 162
www.skillsoft.com<;http://www.skillsoft.com/>;
[Skillsoft / Sumtotal]
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From: Mark Magennis
Date: Mon, Dec 06 2021 4:43AM
Subject: Re: Where should focus be on page load?
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Actually, not just interested to hear from screen reader users but keyboard users in general.
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Mon, Dec 06 2021 4:58AM
Subject: Re: Where should focus be on page load?
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If it's a full page reload focus should go to the top of the page (its
expected behavior).
By full page reload I basially mean the whole main content of the page
is refreshed and the title is changed.
If the page has more than 5 focusable elements in the header, it
should ahve a skip link anyway to quickly get the usre back to main
content (the 5 rule is my best practice, not WCAG).
If the reload happened as a result of the user clicking the "back"
button, focus should go to the link used to navigate to that page.
If focus is returning from a modal dialog or tooltip, focus should be
placed back on the element used to trigger its display (unless the
user took action in the dialog that changed the context, e.g. delete
an item or navigate elsewhere).
If the user deleted an item from a table or list, focus should either
go to the top of the table/list or to the element prior to the one
being deleted (or the ome immediately following), no hard rule but it
makes sense, you don't want to interup the user's train of thought and
they might not be done interacting with that content.
If you have an accordion or tab that the user activates, the focus
stays on the trigger used to display content, it does not move.
If you trigger display of content that does not immediately follow the
location of the trigger, the focus should go to the beginning of that
content.
For other issues, use your best judgment or consult with your UX team
and/or usability testing.
On 12/6/21, Mark Magennis < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Actually, not just interested to hear from screen reader users but keyboard
> users in general.
>
>
From: Tim Harshbarger
Date: Mon, Dec 06 2021 5:00AM
Subject: Re: Where should focus be on page load?
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I think this issue is probably less confusing for screen reader users than
most people think. If the focus starts on some kind of form control, I
suspect screen reader users will assume they are not at the top of the page
but somewhere further in it. If it starts on a link, it probably depends on
whether or not the link sounds like it should be something at the top of the
page. For example, if the focus were placed on a skip link or a homepage
link a screen reader user might think they are at the top of the page. Once
a screen reader knows or suspects they are not at the top of the page and if
they want to go there, it is fairly trivial to accomplish that.
I suspect the location of the focus is more important to keyboard users. If
it goes to somewhere on the page they want to be or close to it, you saved
them a lot of tabbing. If it is not close to where they want to go, what
will it take to get them where they want to go?
Thanks,
Tim
Tim Harshbarger
From: Mark Magennis
Date: Mon, Dec 06 2021 5:29AM
Subject: Re: Where should focus be on page load?
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Bikir wrote: If it's a full page reload focus should go to the top of the page (its expected behavior).
Mark replies: So you wouldn't agree that there are any special circumstances where focus should be placed at the start of the unique page content, such as on a search results page?
Mark
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Mon, Dec 06 2021 6:26AM
Subject: Re: Where should focus be on page load?
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It's a case by case basis, e.g. should focus go directly to "username"
on a login page.
If there is no critical info about logging in before the login field,
it makes sense to place the focus there directly.
Like you said, if this a search results page, maybe put focus on the
search results heading. It ends up being a judgment call. If searching
reveals a whole new page ( you type in a phrase, click a search
button, and a new page loads) I'd rather start at the top and navigate
to "search results".
If the search results are dynamic (they get displayed as you type) or
only the search result component gets updated on the page, maybe put
the focus on the search results heading directly. Keep in mind that
you can only do that if user clicks a button to search, you never know
when they are done typing into the search input and you can't disrupt
them.
I've found that screen readers do not always follow your focus
placement, especially in browse mode, unless you are placing focus on
a focusable element.
On 12/6/21, Mark Magennis < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Bikir wrote: If it's a full page reload focus should go to the top of the
> page (its expected behavior).
>
> Mark replies: So you wouldn't agree that there are any special circumstances
> where focus should be placed at the start of the unique page content, such
> as on a search results page?
>
> Mark
> > > > >
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From: Geethavani.Shamanna
Date: Mon, Dec 06 2021 6:39AM
Subject: Re: Where should focus be on page load?
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I would like to add another item to this well-compiled list.
When adding items to the shopping cart on a popular supermarket site, on selecting the quantity for an item and clicking the Add button, the page refreshes and focus moves to the top of the page. Here the focus should ideally move to the item following the one that has already been added. If an item is added without altering the quantity, then the focus moves to the next item as expected. On supermarket sites where shoppers are likely to add dozens of items, testing the focus behaviour is very critical.
From: Andrews, David B (DEED)
Date: Mon, Dec 06 2021 9:20AM
Subject: Re: Where should focus be on page load?
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It is not confusing to experienced users, but may be to a newbie. Also, depending on the complexity of the page, and degree of interaction -- if focus is moved a lot, it can be very frustrating!
Dave
From: Benjamin.Hofer
Date: Tue, Dec 07 2021 12:54AM
Subject: Re: Where should focus be on page load?
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I think it sepends a lot if we talk about single-page applications with little or no page reloads or web applications (backend frameworks) with "real" page reloads.
For a single page app, I have to rely on focus placement as a screenreader user. That's very crucial because otherwise no changes/action is visible for a screenreader user. In fact, those apps tend to be very accessible and convenient to use if things like focus placement were tought. If accessibility is not built in, these are the most frustrating ones...
When it comes to "traditional" web pages with "real" page reloads, focus is not so important. In my view, it's convenient to place it somewhere important on a page (e.g. where the content starts / first heading etc.9, but that depends a lot on the page content itself..
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Betreff: Re: [WebAIM] Where should focus be on page load?
It is not confusing to experienced users, but may be to a newbie. Also, depending on the complexity of the page, and degree of interaction -- if focus is moved a lot, it can be very frustrating!
Dave