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From: Steve Green
Date: Wed, Oct 12 2022 7:29AM
Subject: Website ANDI output for screen readers
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Tools like ANDI can't fully determine whether a screen reader will properly read the content of a web page. They can do some tests, but not enough to be useful, so I would not use such tools for that. You really have to test with the screen readers because they all behave differently.

Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd


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Hello everyone,
What do you look for within the ANDI tool to determine if a screen reader will properly read the content of a web page?
Structures > Reading order should mark everything correctly and in sequential order, correct?


Claire Forbes
Training & Section 508 Specialist

Victor 12, Inc.
174 West Comstock Avenue Suite 104
​Winter Park, FL. 32789

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From: Hayman, Douglass
Date: Wed, Oct 12 2022 10:18AM
Subject: Re: - Website ANDI output for screen readers
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Claire,

I'd use both ANDI and manually testing with a screen reader like NVDA.

With ANDI I'd use Focusable Elements and navigate through all items to see what it reveals. Then I'd use the graphics/images tool then the links/buttons tool, structures, the tables tools (if any were present), and test iframes if those were present. Each of the ANDI components is best utilized with the huge/long PDF they have that has you check against the WCAG success criteria, which I believe is still only using the 2.0 AA level.

Having gone through the Trusted Tester certification process I value what the ANDI tool can do but like Steve said, you'd still need to try out things with a screen reader.

Doug Hayman
IT Accessibility Coordinator
Information Technology
Olympic College
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Hello everyone,
What do you look for within the ANDI tool to determine if a screen reader will properly read the content of a web page?
Structures > Reading order should mark everything correctly and in sequential order, correct?


Claire Forbes
Training & Section 508 Specialist

Victor 12, Inc.
174 West Comstock Avenue Suite 104
​Winter Park, FL. 32789

Tel: 407-612-6011 x119
Fax: 407-985-1980
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