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From: Maia Miller
Date: Wed, Dec 07 2022 8:02PM
Subject: Multiple ways
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Hi list,

Can you provide insights to whether you believe this page passes or
fails multiple ways:

The website is a company directory, a collection of staff and internal
events. There is a page, "Add an Event", where you can add a new event -
makes sense. In the nav bar, you can select "Events" which takes you to
the event listing page. Only once there can you click on "Add an Event"
button to take you to the page in question.

In this way, there's only one way to get to the "Add an Event" page.
There is no site map or table of contents, and it's not possible to find
this page in a search.

Does "Add an Event" page fail to meet the requirements for 2.4.5
Multiple Ways? Could it be argued that it's part of a process? It seems
cumbersome to have a dropdown menu just because of this page (which
intuitively lives on the Events page).

Thoughts welcome - thanks!

Maia

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From: Swift, Daniel P.
Date: Thu, Dec 08 2022 5:37AM
Subject: Re: Multiple ways
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I personally wouldn't see this as a fail; however, I can see both sides.

To me, adding the event is tangentially related to the events page itself … a process tied into that. Depending on how dynamic the events page is, you could make the case that the events page is a web app and the ‘add event' is tied into that.

One could also argue that if you can get to the events page itself from multiple pages, your path to ‘add an event' also includes multiple paths as well. From a usability perspective, it also makes sense to have the ‘add event' button the page itself and not necessarily on other pages (unless it makes sense the context of the other pages).

On the other hand, in the most literal sense, the users don't have a way to locate the content in a manner that “best fits their needs” (how would you even define that?).

My opinion though is that I don't see it as a fail, but I'd welcome other opinions.

Daniel Swift, MBA
Director of Web Communications
University Communications and Marketing
West Chester University
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Subject: [WebAIM] Multiple ways

Hi list,

Can you provide insights to whether you believe this page passes or
fails multiple ways:

The website is a company directory, a collection of staff and internal
events. There is a page, "Add an Event", where you can add a new event -
makes sense. In the nav bar, you can select "Events" which takes you to
the event listing page. Only once there can you click on "Add an Event"
button to take you to the page in question.

In this way, there's only one way to get to the "Add an Event" page.
There is no site map or table of contents, and it's not possible to find
this page in a search.

Does "Add an Event" page fail to meet the requirements for 2.4.5
Multiple Ways? Could it be argued that it's part of a process? It seems
cumbersome to have a dropdown menu just because of this page (which
intuitively lives on the Events page).

Thoughts welcome - thanks!

Maia

--
*Maia Miller*, WAS (Web Accessibility Specialist)
Accessibility Manager
(she/her)

AAP WAS small circular badge and horizontal name logo for International
Association of Accessibility Professionals (IAAP) Web Accessibility
Specialist (WAS) credential. To the left is a dark blue circle with
three lines of centered white text that read: IAAP Certified WAS. There
is a smaller light blue circle that surrounds the dark blue inner circle
that designates the WAS credential color scheme. To the right, two lines
of dark blue text. Top text reads Web Accessibility Specialist, second
line reads International Association of Accessibility Professionals.
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From: Steve Green
Date: Thu, Dec 08 2022 5:58AM
Subject: Re: Multiple ways
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If the Add Event page is separate from the Events page, it looks like a clear WCAG non-conformance to me. It might not be a significant accessibility issue, but that's not relevant to WCAG conformance.

Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd