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From: chagnon@pubcom.com
Date: Thu, Nov 02 2023 12:09AM
Subject: New bug in Adobe PDF Maker
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A major bug was recently introduced into Adobe's PDF Maker plug-in for MS
Office / Windows.

With the latest update in September-October, graphics no longer have their
<Figure> tags placed in the correction location of the tag tree's reading
order. Instead, they're scattered throughout the PDF's tag tree, sometimes 3
or 5 or even 15 pages away from their intended location.

Suggestions:

1. We need to vote this up on Adobe's bug website,
https://acrobat.uservoice.com/forums/590923-acrobat-for-windows-and-mac/sugg
estions/47424254-pdf-maker-new-bug-puts-figure-tags-in-the-wrong So please
vote (that's very critical to get it noticed by Adobe's powers) and add your
comments to the discussion. Be sure to let Adobe know that you are required
to make fully accessible PDFs and that this is NOT a minor bug.

2. In the meantime, use Microsoft's internal PDF export utility from
Word. It places the <Figure> correctly in the tag tree. Our blog-tutorial
has directions. Use Method C at
https://www.pubcom.com/blog/tutorials/ms-office/export-pdf/index.shtml

Thanks for helping make accessible documents better!



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From: Karen McCall
Date: Thu, Nov 02 2023 6:30AM
Subject: Re: New bug in Adobe PDF Maker
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We saw this bug in Microsoft Office 2010. With that bug, all figures in the document/PDF from any Office application were thrown at the top of the tags tree.

This is when I started adding captions to graphics. It took less time to artifact the graphics than it did trying to drag them around the tags tree. With the captions present, those using adaptive technology or who required a Braille copy of the PDF had access to the alt text/knew there was a graphic there.

So the bug has reappeared but now scattering the graphics!

Everything old is new again!

Cheers, Karen

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Subject: [WebAIM] New bug in Adobe PDF Maker

A major bug was recently introduced into Adobe's PDF Maker plug-in for MS Office / Windows.

With the latest update in September-October, graphics no longer have their <Figure> tags placed in the correction location of the tag tree's reading order. Instead, they're scattered throughout the PDF's tag tree, sometimes 3 or 5 or even 15 pages away from their intended location.

Suggestions:

1. We need to vote this up on Adobe's bug website,
https://acrobat.uservoice.com/forums/590923-acrobat-for-windows-and-mac/sugg
estions/47424254-pdf-maker-new-bug-puts-figure-tags-in-the-wrong So please vote (that's very critical to get it noticed by Adobe's powers) and add your comments to the discussion. Be sure to let Adobe know that you are required to make fully accessible PDFs and that this is NOT a minor bug.

2. In the meantime, use Microsoft's internal PDF export utility from
Word. It places the <Figure> correctly in the tag tree. Our blog-tutorial has directions. Use Method C at
https://www.pubcom.com/blog/tutorials/ms-office/export-pdf/index.shtml

Thanks for helping make accessible documents better!



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Bevi Chagnon | Designer, Accessibility Technician | = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >

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PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing

consulting . training . development . design . sec. 508 services

Upcoming classes at http://www.pubcom.com/ <http://www.pubcom.com/classes>; classes

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Latest blog-newsletter
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From: Laura Roberts
Date: Sat, Nov 04 2023 9:14AM
Subject: Re: New bug in Adobe PDF Maker
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Bevi,
I can't for the life of me find out to disable automatic updates in Acrobat
Pro DC. There is no Updater under Edit>Preferences. I don't use Creative
Cloud because I only have a license for Acrobat, so I can't use that.
Googling just brings up old results from like 2017. Any advice would
be appreciated.
Laura

On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 2:09 AM < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> A major bug was recently introduced into Adobe's PDF Maker plug-in for MS
> Office / Windows.
>
> With the latest update in September-October, graphics no longer have their
> <Figure> tags placed in the correction location of the tag tree's reading
> order. Instead, they're scattered throughout the PDF's tag tree, sometimes
> 3
> or 5 or even 15 pages away from their intended location.
>
> Suggestions:
>
> 1. We need to vote this up on Adobe's bug website,
>
> https://acrobat.uservoice.com/forums/590923-acrobat-for-windows-and-mac/sugg
> estions/47424254-pdf-maker-new-bug-puts-figure-tags-in-the-wrong
> <https://acrobat.uservoice.com/forums/590923-acrobat-for-windows-and-mac/suggestions/47424254-pdf-maker-new-bug-puts-figure-tags-in-the-wrong>
> So please
> vote (that's very critical to get it noticed by Adobe's powers) and add
> your
> comments to the discussion. Be sure to let Adobe know that you are required
> to make fully accessible PDFs and that this is NOT a minor bug.
>
> 2. In the meantime, use Microsoft's internal PDF export utility from
> Word. It places the <Figure> correctly in the tag tree. Our blog-tutorial
> has directions. Use Method C at
> https://www.pubcom.com/blog/tutorials/ms-office/export-pdf/index.shtml
>
> Thanks for helping make accessible documents better!
>
>
>
> - - -
>
> Bevi Chagnon | Designer, Accessibility Technician | = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>
> - - -
>
> PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing
>
> consulting . training . development . design . sec. 508 services
>
> Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/ <http://www.pubcom.com/classes>;
> classes
>
> - - -
>
> Latest blog-newsletter
> <https://mailchi.mp/e694edcdfadd/class-discount-3266574> - Simple Guide
> to
> Writing Alt-Text
> <https://www.pubcom.com/blog/2020_07-20/alt-text_part-1.shtml>
>
>
>
> > > > >


--
Best regards,
Laura Roberts
413-588-8422

From: Philip Kiff
Date: Sat, Nov 04 2023 10:15AM
Subject: Re: New bug in Adobe PDF Maker
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In my version of Acrobat Pro DC (2023.003.20269), the update options are
found in the following menu:
Edit > Preferences > Updater > checkbox: Automatically install updates

When navigating by mouse, you have to scroll the "Categories" to see the
"Updater" option in the Preferences sidebar list.

You can also reach this menu via keyboard shortcuts:
CTRL+K
followed by pressing u twice (there are two categories that begin with
"u" and "Updater" is the 2nd)
then tab to the checkbox
space should clear the checkbox
tab again to the OK button
enter to press OK

Phil.

On 2023-11-04 11:14, Laura Roberts wrote:
> Bevi,
> I can't for the life of me find out to disable automatic updates in Acrobat
> Pro DC. There is no Updater under Edit>Preferences. I don't use Creative
> Cloud because I only have a license for Acrobat, so I can't use that.
> Googling just brings up old results from like 2017. Any advice would
> be appreciated.
> Laura
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