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From: Rick
Date: Thu, Mar 23 2006 12:30AM
Subject: Apache Authentication
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Hello webaim ...

As far as I know, Apache user authentication is accessible. But my
evidence is anecdotal and therefore unreliable. The opinions and
experience of webaim forum subscribers would be really helpful.

Here is a test page -- http://hackneysilversurfers.org.uk/test1/

I know that entering passwords can be a problem for some dyslexic users,
and the font size on the prompt window is not friendly to users with
visual impairment.

Are any other problems known?

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From: Patrick Lauke
Date: Thu, Mar 23 2006 2:10AM
Subject: RE: Apache Authentication
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> Rick

> As far as I know, Apache user authentication is accessible. But my
> evidence is anecdotal and therefore unreliable.

The authentication triggers a standard browser dialog, which should be
just as accessible as any other browser dialog.

> I know that entering passwords can be a problem for some
> dyslexic users,

But how do you solve that in any other situation in which they need
to enter a password (e.g. on other login forms etc)? Is it an actual
problem at all? Is there any evidence for this?

> and the font size on the prompt window is not friendly to users with
> visual impairment.

The font size follows the size of any other browser/OS dialogs, so
I'd say it's no more a problem for users with visual impairments than
any other dialog.

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From: Rick
Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 2:20AM
Subject: RE: Apache Authentication
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Thank you!

On 23 Mar 2006 at 9:06, Patrick Lauke wrote:
> The authentication triggers a standard browser dialog, which should be
> just as accessible as any other browser dialog.

True. It's a general problem. What I really meant to ask is
"Is Apache authentication accessible to users who don't browse visually",
expecting the answer "yes" (which I think is your answer).


> > I know that entering passwords can be a problem for some
> > dyslexic users,
> But how do you solve that in any other situation in which they need
> to enter a password (e.g. on other login forms etc)? Is it an actual
> problem at all? Is there any evidence for this?

I'm not dyslexic myself. People who are dyslexic have told me it is a
problem for them. The solution is unsatisfactory and cannot be
recommended to anyone using a public machine -- type the password in a
text editor, inspect carefully, then copy & paste into the dialog.

> The font size follows the size of any other browser/OS dialogs, so
> I'd say it's no more a problem for users with visual impairments than
> any other dialog.

True. All browser dialogs can be a problem, and the problem can be
significant. For examples, see our screen dumps at
http://hackneysilversurfers.org.uk/test1/pics/
For some people, standard browser dialogs are almost unusable.
Risky workaround: same as above, using a word processor set to a
suitably large font size.

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From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Fri, Mar 24 2006 11:00AM
Subject: Re: Apache Authentication
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Rick wrote:

> True. All browser dialogs can be a problem, and the problem can be
> significant. For examples, see our screen dumps at
> http://hackneysilversurfers.org.uk/test1/pics/
> For some people, standard browser dialogs are almost unusable.
> Risky workaround: same as above, using a word processor set to a
> suitably large font size.

But that's completely irrelevant, as the text in the browser dialog
matches the size of the text of the rest of the broweser controls and
the OS itself. If somebody really has a problem with that font size,
they'll set their entire system to use large font size, and not just the
text size of the browser's content area. So it's a moot point, IMHO.

P
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