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From: James Kennard
Date: Mon, Jan 04 2010 2:27AM
Subject: Dragon Naturally Speaking - "Click Close"
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I was doing some testing using Dragon Naturally Speaking and was looking
at a webpage that had a button on it named "Close". When I said "Click
Close" rather than pressing the button, Dragon closed the web browser...
oops.
Presumably there must be a way of activating the button on the page
using Dragon. Does anybody know how?
Thanks!
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From: Simius Puer
Date: Mon, Jan 04 2010 2:54AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking - "Click Close"
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No, that is the intentional behavior of 'close' buttons. They are used
where the developer has opened a new window to display some content as a
method to return you to the original browser session - a very bad practice
as you have once again demonstrated how inaccessible it is!
From: J. B-Vincent
Date: Mon, Jan 04 2010 3:45AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking - "Click Close"
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You could try using the MouseGrid command to focus in on the area where the button is located, and then say "Mouse click." But this is tedious at best, and is not a feature that all users will know about.
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Subject: [WebAIM] Dragon Naturally Speaking - "Click Close"
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Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 1:26 AM
I was doing some testing using Dragon Naturally Speaking and was looking
at a webpage that had a button on it named "Close". When I said "Click
Close" rather than pressing the button, Dragon closed the web browser...
oops.
Presumably there must be a way of activating the button on the page
using Dragon. Does anybody know how?
Thanks!
SciSys UK Limited. Registered in England and Wales No. 4373530.
Registered Office: Methuen Park, Chippenham, Wiltshire SN14 0GB, UK.
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From: James Kennard
Date: Mon, Jan 04 2010 5:45AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking - "Click Close"
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Wow, I am quite surprised there isn't a simple work around. The Mouse
Grid works (hadn't come across that before). It's probably time to look
at renaming the button.
Thanks for your input!
From: Tim Harshbarger
Date: Mon, Jan 04 2010 6:54AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking - "Click Close"
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In Dragon NaturallySpeaking (DNS), it is also possible to use the voice command "click button." If there are multiple buttons in the window, DNS should place numbers next to them. You can then say something like "pick 1" to click the button with the number 1 next to it.
Interestingly, my colleagues, who work with DNS, are uncertain what happens if there only appears to be one button in the window. Typically, if there appears to be one button, they just say the button's name, like "click Close." In fact, they have closed browser windows unintentionally a few times by saying "click Close."
Tim
From: deblist
Date: Mon, Jan 04 2010 7:09AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking - "Click Close"
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Tim Harshbarger wrote:
> Interestingly, my colleagues, who work with DNS, are uncertain what happens if there only appears to be one button in the window. Typically, if there appears to be one button, they just say the button's name, like "click Close." In fact, they have closed browser windows unintentionally a few times by saying "click Close."
as a DNS user, I usually make use of third-party tools (such as
the Firefox Mouseless Browsing extension) to provide this
functionality. Frankly,NaturallySpeaking + existing browser
technologies aren't yet adequate to make this reliable, not just
because of the "click close" behavior you are discussing, but
because the odds of Dragon NaturallySpeaking mishearing the name
of the button are just too high.
I would lay bets that not one of the developers here, each of
whom cares very much about designing accessible webpages, worries
about making link and button names that aren't near homophones of
each other. (Nor should you all, except in as much if things need
to be comprehensible to screen reader users.) It's more reliable
just to stick a unique number next to every clickable item (which
is what Mouseless Browsing does) than to rely on NaturallySpeaking
correctly identifying the name of the button clicked.
-Deborah
From: Moore,Michael (DARS)
Date: Mon, Jan 04 2010 7:21AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking - "Click Close"
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An extension for Dragon that seems to improve the accuracy of Dragon when working with most applications is called KnowBrainer. We have had pretty good success using it.
Mike Moore
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From: Kim Patch
Date: Mon, Jan 04 2010 12:45PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking - "Click Close"
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Also take a look at Utter Command, which lets you
- place and click the mouse using a single speech command
- name one or two mouse clicks in a row, which enables otherwise
inaccessible buttons and drop-down menus
- speak the Firefox mouseless browsing extensions -- you can say up to
two numbers in a row
Here's a video that includes the naming-a-mouse-click ability:
http://www.redstartsystems.com/videos.html#unprecedented
In general, it enables all applications and lets you speak in command
phrases.
Caveat -- I'm with Redstart Systems, which makes Utter Command.
Kim Patch
Moore,Michael (DARS) wrote:
> An extension for Dragon that seems to improve the accuracy of Dragon when working with most applications is called KnowBrainer. We have had pretty good success using it.
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> Mike Moore
> (512) 424-4159
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