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From: Digital Odyssey
Date: Tue, Jun 26 2001 1:22PM
Subject: <abbr> not reading
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Hi all,
I've tagged some headers on a calendar page as <abbr title="Sunday"> Sun
</abbr> etc., but when I have Jaws read it, it ignores the abbr tag. Can
anyone help me understand why?
Thanks,
Liz
Digital Odyssey
www.dowebs.com
541 S. School Street
Suite A
Ukiah, CA 95482
707.468.9800 tel
707.462.3190 fax
From: CPD Webmaster
Date: Tue, Jun 26 2001 1:32PM
Subject: Re: <abbr> not reading
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As far as I know, Jaws does not support the ABBR tag. It only supports the
ACRONYM tag. You may want to use the acronym instead, even if the item is
technically not an acronym. Some people will look down on this approach,
because "Sun" is not an acronym, but at least Jaws will read the expanded
version of the text correctly. This is a judgment call that you will have to
make (whether to have technically correct markup or to have a tag that works
for Jaws).
Paul Bohman
Technology Coordinator
WebAIM: Web Accessibility in Mind (www.webaim.org)
Center for Persons with Disabilities (www.cpd.usu.edu)
Utah State University (www.usu.edu)
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From: "Digital Odyssey" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:22 PM
Subject: <abbr> not reading
> Hi all,
>
> I've tagged some headers on a calendar page as <abbr title="Sunday"> Sun
> </abbr> etc., but when I have Jaws read it, it ignores the abbr tag. Can
> anyone help me understand why?
>
> Thanks,
> Liz
>
> Digital Odyssey
> www.dowebs.com
> 541 S. School Street
> Suite A
> Ukiah, CA 95482
> 707.468.9800 tel
> 707.462.3190 fax
>
>
>
From: Digital Odyssey
Date: Tue, Jun 26 2001 1:45PM
Subject: Re: <abbr> not reading
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Thanks very much. Is there a resource that tells us which tags work with
which programs?
TIA,
Liz
At 01:32 PM 6/26/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>As far as I know, Jaws does not support the ABBR tag. It only supports the
>ACRONYM tag. You may want to use the acronym instead, even if the item is
>technically not an acronym. Some people will look down on this approach,
>because "Sun" is not an acronym, but at least Jaws will read the expanded
>version of the text correctly. This is a judgment call that you will have to
>make (whether to have technically correct markup or to have a tag that works
>for Jaws).
>
>Paul Bohman
>Technology Coordinator
>WebAIM: Web Accessibility in Mind (www.webaim.org)
>Center for Persons with Disabilities (www.cpd.usu.edu)
>Utah State University (www.usu.edu)
>
>
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>From: "Digital Odyssey" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>To: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:22 PM
>Subject: <abbr> not reading
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've tagged some headers on a calendar page as <abbr title="Sunday"> Sun
> > </abbr> etc., but when I have Jaws read it, it ignores the abbr tag. Can
> > anyone help me understand why?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Liz
> >
> > Digital Odyssey
> > www.dowebs.com
> > 541 S. School Street
> > Suite A
> > Ukiah, CA 95482
> > 707.468.9800 tel
> > 707.462.3190 fax
> >
> >
> >
Digital Odyssey
www.dowebs.com
541 S. School Street
Suite A
Ukiah, CA 95482
707.468.9800 tel
707.462.3190 fax
From: Goldie Freeman
Date: Tue, Jun 26 2001 1:56PM
Subject: Re: <abbr> not reading
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Hi,
The <abbr> tag is defined by W3C but not browser supported yet.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:22 PM
Subject: <abbr> not reading
> Hi all,
>
> I've tagged some headers on a calendar page as <abbr title="Sunday"> Sun
> </abbr> etc., but when I have Jaws read it, it ignores the abbr tag. Can
> anyone help me understand why?
>
> Thanks,
> Liz
>
> Digital Odyssey
> www.dowebs.com
> 541 S. School Street
> Suite A
> Ukiah, CA 95482
> 707.468.9800 tel
> 707.462.3190 fax
>
>
>
From: CPD Webmaster
Date: Tue, Jun 26 2001 2:21PM
Subject: Re: <abbr> not reading
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> Thanks very much. Is there a resource that tells us which tags work with
> which programs?
I have to admit that I don't know of a resource quite like that, although it
would be nice to put one together. I've made a note of the idea, and will
see if I can either find an existing resource or create one myself (probably
not right away, however).
Paul Bohman
Technology Coordinator
WebAIM: Web Accessibility in Mind (www.webaim.org)
Center for Persons with Disabilities (www.cpd.usu.edu)
Utah State University (www.usu.edu)
From: Goldie Freeman
Date: Tue, Jun 26 2001 2:39PM
Subject: Re: <abbr> not reading
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Well, besides plowing thru' Goodman's "Dynamic HTML", the quickest reference
I found was VisiBone's HTML Card which lists elements & attributes, CSS
properties & special characters on a 4-sided laminated card or wall chart.
www.visibone.com/html
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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: <abbr> not reading
> > Thanks very much. Is there a resource that tells us which tags work with
> > which programs?
>
> I have to admit that I don't know of a resource quite like that, although
it
> would be nice to put one together. I've made a note of the idea, and will
> see if I can either find an existing resource or create one myself
(probably
> not right away, however).
>
> Paul Bohman
> Technology Coordinator
> WebAIM: Web Accessibility in Mind (www.webaim.org)
> Center for Persons with Disabilities (www.cpd.usu.edu)
> Utah State University (www.usu.edu)
>
>
>
From: John Middleton
Date: Tue, Jun 26 2001 4:31PM
Subject: Re: <abbr> not reading
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A similar and helpful URI
<http://www.webreview.com/style/css1/charts/mastergrid.shtml>;, but
still not what was mentioned.
Knowing what Screen Reader software packages (ie JAWS, OutSpoken,
Lynxs, and versions) supports what tags, styles, etc. would be useful.
I am not aware of such a data collection.
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>Well, besides plowing thru' Goodman's "Dynamic HTML", the quickest reference
>I found was VisiBone's HTML Card which lists elements & attributes, CSS
>properties & special characters on a 4-sided laminated card or wall chart.
>www.visibone.com/html
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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: <abbr> not reading
> > Thanks very much. Is there a resource that tells us which tags work with
> > which programs?
>
> I have to admit that I don't know of a resource quite like that, although
it
> would be nice to put one together. I've made a note of the idea, and will
> see if I can either find an existing resource or create one myself
(probably
> not right away, however).
>
> Paul Bohman
> Technology Coordinator
> WebAIM: Web Accessibility in Mind (www.webaim.org)
> Center for Persons with Disabilities (www.cpd.usu.edu)
> Utah State University (www.usu.edu)