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From: Ramya Sethuraman
Date: Fri, Aug 24 2012 12:52PM
Subject: aria scrollbar role and jaws.
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Hi,
Has anyone used the aria scrollbar role with jaws? I am on FF 14.0.1 and
using Jaws 13 and when I tab to a div marked with tabindex 0, role
scrollbar and a label, Jaws does not announce that the region is
scrollable. Even if a jaws user is able to scroll through a region, focus
remains where it previously was, is it useful for screen reader users to be
able to scroll?
My other related question is, what is the best practice to be followed
w.r.t scrollable areas? For eg, how will keyboard only users know that a
custom container is scrollble? What visual indication can we provide to
them?
Thanks!
Ramya
From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Fri, Aug 24 2012 2:15PM
Subject: Re: aria scrollbar role and jaws.
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I'm curious what other people's views are about this as well.
I've never seen what the value is for having the role of scrollbar is, since
all content within scrollable divs is already accessible to screen reader
users as offscreen text anyway, so scrolling something that has only visual
significance has no value for screen reader users. Also, since ARIA only
works for screen reader users, the point is equally mystifying.
I have used CSS to indicate when a scrollable div has focus though, which
seems to work well for conveying when a div has focus for keyboard users.
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From: "Ramya Sethuraman" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:52 AM
Subject: [WebAIM] aria scrollbar role and jaws.
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone used the aria scrollbar role with jaws? I am on FF 14.0.1 and
> using Jaws 13 and when I tab to a div marked with tabindex 0, role
> scrollbar and a label, Jaws does not announce that the region is
> scrollable. Even if a jaws user is able to scroll through a region, focus
> remains where it previously was, is it useful for screen reader users to
> be
> able to scroll?
>
> My other related question is, what is the best practice to be followed
> w.r.t scrollable areas? For eg, how will keyboard only users know that a
> custom container is scrollble? What visual indication can we provide to
> them?
>
> Thanks!
> Ramya
> > >
From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Fri, Aug 24 2012 2:33PM
Subject: Re: aria scrollbar role and jaws.
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Sorry, forgot the CSS...
Say you have a scrollable div like:
<div id="test" tabindex="0"> Really awesome scrollable content here...
</div>
Then you can use the CSS
#test:focus {
outline: 2px red inset;
}
#test:focus:after {
content: 'Use the arrow keys to scroll';
}
Interestingly enough JAWS actually announces the content property value in
Firefox.
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From: "Bryan Garaventa" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] aria scrollbar role and jaws.
> I'm curious what other people's views are about this as well.
>
> I've never seen what the value is for having the role of scrollbar is,
> since
> all content within scrollable divs is already accessible to screen reader
> users as offscreen text anyway, so scrolling something that has only
> visual
> significance has no value for screen reader users. Also, since ARIA only
> works for screen reader users, the point is equally mystifying.
>
> I have used CSS to indicate when a scrollable div has focus though, which
> seems to work well for conveying when a div has focus for keyboard users.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ramya Sethuraman" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:52 AM
> Subject: [WebAIM] aria scrollbar role and jaws.
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anyone used the aria scrollbar role with jaws? I am on FF 14.0.1 and
>> using Jaws 13 and when I tab to a div marked with tabindex 0, role
>> scrollbar and a label, Jaws does not announce that the region is
>> scrollable. Even if a jaws user is able to scroll through a region, focus
>> remains where it previously was, is it useful for screen reader users to
>> be
>> able to scroll?
>>
>> My other related question is, what is the best practice to be followed
>> w.r.t scrollable areas? For eg, how will keyboard only users know that a
>> custom container is scrollble? What visual indication can we provide to
>> them?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Ramya
>> >> >> >
> > >
From: Ramya Sethuraman
Date: Fri, Aug 24 2012 2:48PM
Subject: Re: aria scrollbar role and jaws.
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Cool, that makes it accessible to keyboard only users -- nice!
Ramya
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Bryan Garaventa <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Sorry, forgot the CSS...
>
> Say you have a scrollable div like:
>
> <div id="test" tabindex="0"> Really awesome scrollable content here...
> </div>
>
> Then you can use the CSS
>
> #test:focus {
> outline: 2px red inset;
> }
> #test:focus:after {
> content: 'Use the arrow keys to scroll';
> }
>
> Interestingly enough JAWS actually announces the content property value in
> Firefox.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan Garaventa" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 1:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] aria scrollbar role and jaws.
>
>
> > I'm curious what other people's views are about this as well.
> >
> > I've never seen what the value is for having the role of scrollbar is,
> > since
> > all content within scrollable divs is already accessible to screen reader
> > users as offscreen text anyway, so scrolling something that has only
> > visual
> > significance has no value for screen reader users. Also, since ARIA only
> > works for screen reader users, the point is equally mystifying.
> >
> > I have used CSS to indicate when a scrollable div has focus though, which
> > seems to work well for conveying when a div has focus for keyboard users.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ramya Sethuraman" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:52 AM
> > Subject: [WebAIM] aria scrollbar role and jaws.
> >
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Has anyone used the aria scrollbar role with jaws? I am on FF 14.0.1 and
> >> using Jaws 13 and when I tab to a div marked with tabindex 0, role
> >> scrollbar and a label, Jaws does not announce that the region is
> >> scrollable. Even if a jaws user is able to scroll through a region,
> focus
> >> remains where it previously was, is it useful for screen reader users to
> >> be
> >> able to scroll?
> >>
> >> My other related question is, what is the best practice to be followed
> >> w.r.t scrollable areas? For eg, how will keyboard only users know that a
> >> custom container is scrollble? What visual indication can we provide to
> >> them?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Ramya
> >> > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
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