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From: Michael Burks
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2013 8:58AM
Subject: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications
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All,

We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java
Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?

Thank you in advance for any help.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks
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From: McKeithan, Thomas
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2013 9:00AM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply toWeb Based Java Applications
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That's ridiculous! Who did you here this from!

Respectfully,
Thomas Lee McKeithan II
Accessibility Program Manager
National Industries for the Blind
1310 Braddock Place
Alexandria, VA 22314
(703)310-0586 Direct
(202)276-6437 Cell
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"Believing is achieving, for if I believe, I can and I will achieve."






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Subject: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications

All,

We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?

Thank you in advance for any help.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks
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From: Don Mauck
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2013 10:00AM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply toWeb Based Java Applications
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Who is telling you that?
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From: McKeithan, Thomas [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:00 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications

That's ridiculous! Who did you here this from!

Respectfully,
Thomas Lee McKeithan II
Accessibility Program Manager
National Industries for the Blind
1310 Braddock Place
Alexandria, VA 22314
(703)310-0586 Direct
(202)276-6437 Cell
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =


"Believing is achieving, for if I believe, I can and I will achieve."






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Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:59 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications

All,

We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?

Thank you in advance for any help.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks
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From: Michael Burks
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2013 10:02AM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications
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Don,

We are being told this by the lead on development team that is producing a web
based project that is for the most part written in Java.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks




From: Don Mauck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Thu, January 3, 2013 12:00:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to
Web Based Java Applications

Who is telling you that?
-----Original Message-----
From: McKeithan, Thomas [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:00 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to
Web Based Java Applications

That's ridiculous! Who did you here this from!

Respectfully,
Thomas Lee McKeithan II
Accessibility Program Manager
National Industries for the Blind
1310 Braddock Place
Alexandria, VA 22314
(703)310-0586 Direct
(202)276-6437 Cell
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =


"Believing is achieving, for if I believe, I can and I will achieve."






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Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:59 AM
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Subject: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web
Based Java Applications

All,

We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java
Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?

Thank you in advance for any help.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks
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From: Don Mauck
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2013 10:20AM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications
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I certainly don't understand that nor what they are really implying. They really need to do some explaining and fast before they make critical mistakes in both coding and misinformation.
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From: Michael Burks [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:03 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications

Don,

We are being told this by the lead on development team that is producing a web
based project that is for the most part written in Java.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks




From: Don Mauck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Thu, January 3, 2013 12:00:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to
Web Based Java Applications

Who is telling you that?
-----Original Message-----
From: McKeithan, Thomas [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:00 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to
Web Based Java Applications

That's ridiculous! Who did you here this from!

Respectfully,
Thomas Lee McKeithan II
Accessibility Program Manager
National Industries for the Blind
1310 Braddock Place
Alexandria, VA 22314
(703)310-0586 Direct
(202)276-6437 Cell
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =


"Believing is achieving, for if I believe, I can and I will achieve."






-----Original Message-----
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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Michael Burks
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:59 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web
Based Java Applications

All,

We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java
Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?

Thank you in advance for any help.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks
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From: Michael Burks
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2013 10:22AM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications
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Don,

My feelings exactly. I am doing some further investigation.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks




From: Don Mauck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Thu, January 3, 2013 12:20:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to
Web Based Java Applications

I certainly don't understand that nor what they are really implying. They
really need to do some explaining and fast before they make critical mistakes in
both coding and misinformation.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Burks [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:03 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to
Web Based Java Applications

Don,

We are being told this by the lead on development team that is producing a web
based project that is for the most part written in Java.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks




From: Don Mauck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Thu, January 3, 2013 12:00:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to

Web Based Java Applications

Who is telling you that?
-----Original Message-----
From: McKeithan, Thomas [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:00 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to

Web Based Java Applications

That's ridiculous! Who did you here this from!

Respectfully,
Thomas Lee McKeithan II
Accessibility Program Manager
National Industries for the Blind
1310 Braddock Place
Alexandria, VA 22314
(703)310-0586 Direct
(202)276-6437 Cell
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =


"Believing is achieving, for if I believe, I can and I will achieve."






-----Original Message-----
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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Michael Burks
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:59 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web

Based Java Applications

All,

We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java
Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?

Thank you in advance for any help.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks
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From: Pratik Patel
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2013 10:46AM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications
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Michael Burks Wrote

Don,

My feelings exactly. I am doing some further investigation.


PP:
I suggest contacting Peter Corn at Oracle. I believe his most recent address
is = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = . He is the ultimate authority on Java and Java
AccessBridge.

Hope this helps.

Pratik

Pratik Patel
CEO, EZFire
T: 718-928-5529
M: 718-249-7019

From: Don Mauck
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2013 10:48AM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications
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I work with Peter, so I'm sure he and I will discuss this.
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From: Pratik Patel [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:46 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications

Michael Burks Wrote

Don,

My feelings exactly. I am doing some further investigation.


PP:
I suggest contacting Peter Corn at Oracle. I believe his most recent address is = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = . He is the ultimate authority on Java and Java AccessBridge.

Hope this helps.

Pratik

Pratik Patel
CEO, EZFire
T: 718-928-5529
M: 718-249-7019

From: Pratik Patel
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2013 11:12AM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications
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My apologies. Peter's email address is = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = and not
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = . Blind people are notorious for incorrectly spelling
people's names. I am no exception.

Regards,

Pratik
Pratik Patel
CEO, EZFire
T: 718-928-5529
M: 718-249-7019


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 12:48 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not
apply to Web Based Java Applications

I work with Peter, so I'm sure he and I will discuss this.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pratik Patel [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:46 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not
apply to Web Based Java Applications

Michael Burks Wrote

Don,

My feelings exactly. I am doing some further investigation.


PP:
I suggest contacting Peter Corn at Oracle. I believe his most recent address
is = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = . He is the ultimate authority on Java and Java
AccessBridge.

Hope this helps.

Pratik

Pratik Patel
CEO, EZFire
T: 718-928-5529
M: 718-249-7019

messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

From: Léonie Watson
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2013 11:31AM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply toWeb Based Java Applications
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Michael Burks wrote:
"We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java
Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?"

It should apply to applets, but as with stand alone Java applications, work
needs to be done to the applet to make it accessible. The Java Accessibility
API can be implemented through the Java Foundation Classes (JFc) Project
user interface components.


My understanding is that support for Java, especially Java applets, is
inconsistent across screen readers (with or without the bridge). It may be
this that's caused the above statement to be made?

Léonie.



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Michael Burks
Sent: 03 January 2013 15:59
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to
Web Based Java Applications

All,

We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java
Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?

Thank you in advance for any help.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks
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From: Cramer, Brian
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2013 12:48PM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does notapply toWeb Based Java Applications
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I understanding was that the bridge was only necessary for applet or binary output? If you're using Java on the server but outputting HTML than there is no need to bridge between the runtime and the OS/AT. Or do I have that wrong?

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From: Léonie Watson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:32 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does notapply to Web Based Java Applications

Michael Burks wrote:
"We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?"

It should apply to applets, but as with stand alone Java applications, work needs to be done to the applet to make it accessible. The Java Accessibility API can be implemented through the Java Foundation Classes (JFc) Project user interface components.


My understanding is that support for Java, especially Java applets, is inconsistent across screen readers (with or without the bridge). It may be this that's caused the above statement to be made?

Léonie.



-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Michael Burks
Sent: 03 January 2013 15:59
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications

All,

We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?

Thank you in advance for any help.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks
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From: Don Mauck
Date: Thu, Jan 03 2013 2:15PM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply toWeb Based Java Applications
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Yes, this is the part that needs to be clear. If they are just writing JAVA applites like you would use as a JAVA script, that is not a big deal at all. However if they are truly writing the application as a stand alone application then they must use the AB API correctly. I think that while Peter Korn might be able to supply answers, the Oracle JAVA team itself should be the one's to address this. Who and what is this company and what is the intent of their application do we know that?
-----Original Message-----
From: Léonie Watson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:32 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications

Michael Burks wrote:
"We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?"

It should apply to applets, but as with stand alone Java applications, work needs to be done to the applet to make it accessible. The Java Accessibility API can be implemented through the Java Foundation Classes (JFc) Project user interface components.


My understanding is that support for Java, especially Java applets, is inconsistent across screen readers (with or without the bridge). It may be this that's caused the above statement to be made?

Léonie.



-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Michael Burks
Sent: 03 January 2013 15:59
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications

All,

We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?

Thank you in advance for any help.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks
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From: Jim Allan
Date: Fri, Jan 04 2013 7:30AM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications
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Java can be used on the back end in the form of Java Server Pages
(functions much like PHP). As with all code it can be written to produce
accessible web pages and web applications.
There is another kind of web application that uses the Java Virtual machine
on the users computer. It is delivered over the web, sometimes in an HTML
wrapper (web page). If it uses the virtual machine, then you need the
Access Bridge in order to make the application function with a screen
reader. Keyboard access and font size changes and all of the other
accessibility stuff will have to built into the application.
Good luck.

Jim


On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Don Mauck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Yes, this is the part that needs to be clear. If they are just writing
> JAVA applites like you would use as a JAVA script, that is not a big deal
> at all. However if they are truly writing the application as a stand
> alone application then they must use the AB API correctly. I think that
> while Peter Korn might be able to supply answers, the Oracle JAVA team
> itself should be the one's to address this. Who and what is this company
> and what is the intent of their application do we know that?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Léonie Watson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:32 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not
> apply to Web Based Java Applications
>
> Michael Burks wrote:
> "We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java
> Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?"
>
> It should apply to applets, but as with stand alone Java applications,
> work needs to be done to the applet to make it accessible. The Java
> Accessibility API can be implemented through the Java Foundation Classes
> (JFc) Project user interface components.
>
>
> My understanding is that support for Java, especially Java applets, is
> inconsistent across screen readers (with or without the bridge). It may be
> this that's caused the above statement to be made?
>
> Léonie.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Michael Burks
> Sent: 03 January 2013 15:59
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply
> to Web Based Java Applications
>
> All,
>
> We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java
> Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?
>
> Thank you in advance for any help.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Mike Burks
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > > messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
>
> > > messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > > >



--
Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
"We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964

From: Sailesh Panchang
Date: Fri, Jan 04 2013 10:01AM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications
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My understanding is the same as Léonie's. But with respect to Jim
Allan's comment:
>>There is another kind of web application that uses the Java Virtual machine
>>on the users computer. It is delivered over the web, sometimes in an HTML
>>wrapper (web page). If it uses the virtual machine, then you need the
>>Access Bridge in order to make the application function with a screen
>>reader.

Well in that case, this is critical for a user to know.
And I have not seen any Web application say 'for accessibility support
make sure you have JavaAccessBridge installed'
And provide a link to download / install it as there are links for
Adobe Reader in case of PDF docs for instance.
When a Web app does not work right, I have had Support tell me ensure
you have the latest Java installed for the browser using
http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp

There is no reference to AccessBridge there.
And installing the Java AccessBridge is not a piece of cake like
installing the Adobe Reader plugin for instance.
I am sure Jim is right but how come this documentation gap has not
surfaced before now?

Sailesh Panchang


On 1/4/13, Jim Allan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Java can be used on the back end in the form of Java Server Pages
> (functions much like PHP). As with all code it can be written to produce
> accessible web pages and web applications.
> There is another kind of web application that uses the Java Virtual machine
> on the users computer. It is delivered over the web, sometimes in an HTML
> wrapper (web page). If it uses the virtual machine, then you need the
> Access Bridge in order to make the application function with a screen
> reader. Keyboard access and font size changes and all of the other
> accessibility stuff will have to built into the application.
> Good luck.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Don Mauck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Yes, this is the part that needs to be clear. If they are just writing
>> JAVA applites like you would use as a JAVA script, that is not a big deal
>> at all. However if they are truly writing the application as a stand
>> alone application then they must use the AB API correctly. I think that
>> while Peter Korn might be able to supply answers, the Oracle JAVA team
>> itself should be the one's to address this. Who and what is this company
>> and what is the intent of their application do we know that?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Léonie Watson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:32 AM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not
>> apply to Web Based Java Applications
>>
>> Michael Burks wrote:
>> "We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based
>> Java
>> Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?"
>>
>> It should apply to applets, but as with stand alone Java applications,
>> work needs to be done to the applet to make it accessible. The Java
>> Accessibility API can be implemented through the Java Foundation Classes
>> (JFc) Project user interface components.
>>
>>
>> My understanding is that support for Java, especially Java applets, is
>> inconsistent across screen readers (with or without the bridge). It may
>> be
>> this that's caused the above statement to be made?
>>
>> Léonie.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Michael Burks
>> Sent: 03 January 2013 15:59
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply
>> to Web Based Java Applications
>>
>> All,
>>
>> We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java
>> Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?
>>
>> Thank you in advance for any help.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Mike Burks
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >> >> messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>
>>
>> >> >> messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >> >> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
> Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
> voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
> "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
> > > >

From: James Nurthen
Date: Fri, Jan 04 2013 2:21PM
Subject: Re: We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based Java Applications
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Sailesh,
The Access Bridge is now installed by default with the latest versions of
Java but must still be enabled. Fortunately this is much simpler than
previously!
See
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/access/enable_and_test.htmlfor
more details.

Regards,
James

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Sailesh Panchang < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> wrote:

> My understanding is the same as Léonie's. But with respect to Jim
> Allan's comment:
> >>There is another kind of web application that uses the Java Virtual
> machine
> >>on the users computer. It is delivered over the web, sometimes in an HTML
> >>wrapper (web page). If it uses the virtual machine, then you need the
> >>Access Bridge in order to make the application function with a screen
> >>reader.
>
> Well in that case, this is critical for a user to know.
> And I have not seen any Web application say 'for accessibility support
> make sure you have JavaAccessBridge installed'
> And provide a link to download / install it as there are links for
> Adobe Reader in case of PDF docs for instance.
> When a Web app does not work right, I have had Support tell me ensure
> you have the latest Java installed for the browser using
> http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
>
> There is no reference to AccessBridge there.
> And installing the Java AccessBridge is not a piece of cake like
> installing the Adobe Reader plugin for instance.
> I am sure Jim is right but how come this documentation gap has not
> surfaced before now?
>
> Sailesh Panchang
>
>
> On 1/4/13, Jim Allan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Java can be used on the back end in the form of Java Server Pages
> > (functions much like PHP). As with all code it can be written to produce
> > accessible web pages and web applications.
> > There is another kind of web application that uses the Java Virtual
> machine
> > on the users computer. It is delivered over the web, sometimes in an HTML
> > wrapper (web page). If it uses the virtual machine, then you need the
> > Access Bridge in order to make the application function with a screen
> > reader. Keyboard access and font size changes and all of the other
> > accessibility stuff will have to built into the application.
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Don Mauck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, this is the part that needs to be clear. If they are just writing
> >> JAVA applites like you would use as a JAVA script, that is not a big
> deal
> >> at all. However if they are truly writing the application as a stand
> >> alone application then they must use the AB API correctly. I think that
> >> while Peter Korn might be able to supply answers, the Oracle JAVA team
> >> itself should be the one's to address this. Who and what is this
> company
> >> and what is the intent of their application do we know that?
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Léonie Watson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:32 AM
> >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not
> >> apply to Web Based Java Applications
> >>
> >> Michael Burks wrote:
> >> "We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based
> >> Java
> >> Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?"
> >>
> >> It should apply to applets, but as with stand alone Java applications,
> >> work needs to be done to the applet to make it accessible. The Java
> >> Accessibility API can be implemented through the Java Foundation Classes
> >> (JFc) Project user interface components.
> >>
> >>
> >> My understanding is that support for Java, especially Java applets, is
> >> inconsistent across screen readers (with or without the bridge). It may
> >> be
> >> this that's caused the above statement to be made?
> >>
> >> Léonie.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Michael
> Burks
> >> Sent: 03 January 2013 15:59
> >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> >> Subject: [WebAIM] We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not
> apply
> >> to Web Based Java Applications
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> We are being told the Java Access Bridge does not apply to Web Based
> Java
> >> Applications. Has anyone ever heard this?
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance for any help.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Mike Burks
> >> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> > >> > >> messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >>
> >>
> >> > >> > >> messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> > >> > >> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
> > Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> > 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
> > voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
> > "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
> > > > > > > >
> > > >