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From: Trafford, Logan
Date: Fri, Sep 13 2013 12:16PM
Subject: Adobe 11 accessibility check
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I’m sure I’ve missed something simple, but it’s Friday afternoon, my brain is fried and I can’t figure it out. Hopefully someone will feel “kind” and correct my wayward habit! LOL

I created a document in Word 2007, filling in a “title” within the Properties. The document was then converted to a PDF (using Acrobat 11) and when I view properties on the PDF, the same title I entered in Word appears in the Title field for the PDF. YET, when I run the full accessibility check in Acrobat 11 I get a FAILURE on Document Title.

Any thoughts? I have a feeling this may have been discussed previously.

Logan Trafford



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From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Fri, Sep 13 2013 12:31PM
Subject: Re: Adobe 11 accessibility check
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We've noticed this and logged a bug for the product team. I'm not sure what causes it but it is a problem. We're getting it in the queue to be fixed.

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Group Product Manager, Accessibility
Adobe Systems

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From: Chagnon | PubCom
Date: Fri, Sep 13 2013 1:12PM
Subject: Re: Adobe 11 accessibility check
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Andrew,

All that needs to be done is for the engineering team to set the default
setting to Show: Title rather than Show: File Name (Doc Properties | Initial
View).

That way whatever is in the Title field of the metadata will be picked up
and the file will pass accessibility checkers.

I logged a bug and feature request for this a couple of times but it's never
gone through. Hopefully you can make some headway!

Logan,
You did your work correctly. For now, until this is adjusted by Adobe, just
change the setting manually: Doc Properties | Initial View | Show: Title

Then run your accessibility checker.

—Bevi Chagnon
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Kirkpatrick
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adobe 11 accessibility check

We've noticed this and logged a bug for the product team. I'm not sure what
causes it but it is a problem. We're getting it in the queue to be fixed.

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Group Product Manager, Accessibility
Adobe Systems

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http://twitter.com/awkawk
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility


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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Trafford, Logan
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:17 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: [WebAIM] Adobe 11 accessibility check

I'm sure I've missed something simple, but it's Friday afternoon, my brain
is fried and I can't figure it out. Hopefully someone will feel "kind" and
correct my wayward habit! LOL

I created a document in Word 2007, filling in a "title" within the
Properties. The document was then converted to a PDF (using Acrobat 11) and
when I view properties on the PDF, the same title I entered in Word appears
in the Title field for the PDF. YET, when I run the full accessibility
check in Acrobat 11 I get a FAILURE on Document Title.

Any thoughts? I have a feeling this may have been discussed previously.

Logan Trafford



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From: Trafford, Logan
Date: Fri, Sep 13 2013 1:16PM
Subject: Re: Adobe 11 accessibility check
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Thanks Bevi

I've been speaking with Andrew offline. Our problem is that thousands of documents are being converted automatically from Word and will not be touched after conversion.

Logan

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Sent: September 13, 2013 3:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adobe 11 accessibility check

Andrew,

All that needs to be done is for the engineering team to set the default setting to Show: Title rather than Show: File Name (Doc Properties | Initial View).

That way whatever is in the Title field of the metadata will be picked up and the file will pass accessibility checkers.

I logged a bug and feature request for this a couple of times but it's never gone through. Hopefully you can make some headway!

Logan,
You did your work correctly. For now, until this is adjusted by Adobe, just change the setting manually: Doc Properties | Initial View | Show: Title

Then run your accessibility checker.

—Bevi Chagnon
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
www.PubCom.com — Trainers, Consultants, Designers, Developers.
Print, Web, Acrobat, XML, eBooks, and U.S. Federal Section 508 Accessibility.
New Sec. 508 Workshop & EPUBs Tour in 2013 — www.Workshop.Pubcom.com


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From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Andrew Kirkpatrick
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:31 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adobe 11 accessibility check

We've noticed this and logged a bug for the product team. I'm not sure what causes it but it is a problem. We're getting it in the queue to be fixed.

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Group Product Manager, Accessibility
Adobe Systems

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http://twitter.com/awkawk
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility


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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Trafford, Logan
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:17 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: [WebAIM] Adobe 11 accessibility check

I'm sure I've missed something simple, but it's Friday afternoon, my brain is fried and I can't figure it out. Hopefully someone will feel "kind" and correct my wayward habit! LOL

I created a document in Word 2007, filling in a "title" within the Properties. The document was then converted to a PDF (using Acrobat 11) and when I view properties on the PDF, the same title I entered in Word appears in the Title field for the PDF. YET, when I run the full accessibility check in Acrobat 11 I get a FAILURE on Document Title.

Any thoughts? I have a feeling this may have been discussed previously.

Logan Trafford



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From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Fri, Sep 13 2013 1:41PM
Subject: Re: Adobe 11 accessibility check
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Bevi,
That's not entirely accurate. In the "make accessible" action if you click the "set open options" button it changes the setting to show the document title in the title bar, as you say. You can also make the change in the way you describe. However, even after doing this, the Document title isn't appearing in the "add document description" dialog that is opened within the make accessible action.

I regard this as a very bad bug because it not only isn't working right, it can make a well-intentioned person (re)do extra work inadvertently.

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Group Product Manager, Accessibility
Adobe Systems

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http://twitter.com/awkawk
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility


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From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Chagnon | PubCom
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 3:12 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adobe 11 accessibility check

Andrew,

All that needs to be done is for the engineering team to set the default setting to Show: Title rather than Show: File Name (Doc Properties | Initial View).

That way whatever is in the Title field of the metadata will be picked up and the file will pass accessibility checkers.

I logged a bug and feature request for this a couple of times but it's never gone through. Hopefully you can make some headway!

Logan,
You did your work correctly. For now, until this is adjusted by Adobe, just change the setting manually: Doc Properties | Initial View | Show: Title

Then run your accessibility checker.

-Bevi Chagnon
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
www.PubCom.com - Trainers, Consultants, Designers, Developers.
Print, Web, Acrobat, XML, eBooks, and U.S. Federal Section 508 Accessibility.
New Sec. 508 Workshop & EPUBs Tour in 2013 - www.Workshop.Pubcom.com


-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Andrew Kirkpatrick
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:31 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adobe 11 accessibility check

We've noticed this and logged a bug for the product team. I'm not sure what causes it but it is a problem. We're getting it in the queue to be fixed.

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Group Product Manager, Accessibility
Adobe Systems

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http://twitter.com/awkawk
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility


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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Trafford, Logan
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:17 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: [WebAIM] Adobe 11 accessibility check

I'm sure I've missed something simple, but it's Friday afternoon, my brain is fried and I can't figure it out. Hopefully someone will feel "kind" and correct my wayward habit! LOL

I created a document in Word 2007, filling in a "title" within the Properties. The document was then converted to a PDF (using Acrobat 11) and when I view properties on the PDF, the same title I entered in Word appears in the Title field for the PDF. YET, when I run the full accessibility check in Acrobat 11 I get a FAILURE on Document Title.

Any thoughts? I have a feeling this may have been discussed previously.

Logan Trafford



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