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From: Graham Armfield
Date: Fri, May 22 2015 6:39AM
Subject: Table Information in NVDA
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Hi All,

I'm working with a client whose website uses some complex data tables which
will probably require the headers attribute to be used.

When I'm testing with JAWS I can use the Ctrl + Alt + Numpad 5 to get
orientation information about the cell that I'm currently interacting with.

My question is, is there a corresponding keystroke in NVDA? I've tried to
find any reference to NVDA table cell information on the web, but without
any success so far.

If anyone's got any thoughts I'd be most grateful.

​Thank
s
Graham Armfield



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From: Devarshi Pant
Date: Fri, May 22 2015 2:21PM
Subject: Re: Table Information in NVDA
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In browse mode (ins + spacebar), navigate the table using Control + Alt +
left / right arrow keys. Hope that helps.
Thanks,
Devarshi

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Graham Armfield <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm working with a client whose website uses some complex data tables which
> will probably require the headers attribute to be used.
>
> When I'm testing with JAWS I can use the Ctrl + Alt + Numpad 5 to get
> orientation information about the cell that I'm currently interacting with.
>
> My question is, is there a corresponding keystroke in NVDA? I've tried to
> find any reference to NVDA table cell information on the web, but without
> any success so far.
>
> If anyone's got any thoughts I'd be most grateful.
>
> Thank
> s
> Graham Armfield
>
>
>
> coolfields.co.uk <http://www.coolfields.co.uk/>;
> M:07905 590026
> T: 01483 856613
> @coolfields <https://twitter.com/coolfields>
> > > > >

From: Pratik Patel
Date: Sat, May 23 2015 11:06AM
Subject: Re: Table Information in NVDA
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Also use control+alt+up and down arrow keys to navigate between rows.

Regards,

Pratik



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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Devarshi Pant
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 4:22 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Table Information in NVDA

In browse mode (ins + spacebar), navigate the table using Control + Alt +
left / right arrow keys. Hope that helps.
Thanks,
Devarshi

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Graham Armfield <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm working with a client whose website uses some complex data tables which
> will probably require the headers attribute to be used.
>
> When I'm testing with JAWS I can use the Ctrl + Alt + Numpad 5 to get
> orientation information about the cell that I'm currently interacting with.
>
> My question is, is there a corresponding keystroke in NVDA? I've tried to
> find any reference to NVDA table cell information on the web, but without
> any success so far.
>
> If anyone's got any thoughts I'd be most grateful.
>
> Thank
> s
> Graham Armfield
>
>
>
> coolfields.co.uk <http://www.coolfields.co.uk/>;
> M:07905 590026
> T: 01483 856613
> @coolfields <https://twitter.com/coolfields>
> > > > >

From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Sun, May 24 2015 8:32PM
Subject: Re: Table Information in NVDA
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.. in other words, you can navigate within tables but I do not think
NVDA has a keystroke for speaking all context info for the cell that
you are currently on.
Consider that NVDA and Jaws support colspan if scope-'colgroup' for
headers associated with more than one column, though there is no
support for the corresponding rowspan/scope="rowgroup" attribute.



On 5/23/15, Pratik Patel < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Also use control+alt+up and down arrow keys to navigate between rows.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pratik
>
>
>
> Pratik Patel
> Founder and CEO, EZFire
> M: 718-249-7019
> E: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = (or = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )
> Follow me on Twitter: @ppatel
> Follow me on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pratik-patel/9/985/882
> Skype: Patel.pratik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
> Of Devarshi Pant
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 4:22 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Table Information in NVDA
>
> In browse mode (ins + spacebar), navigate the table using Control + Alt +
> left / right arrow keys. Hope that helps.
> Thanks,
> Devarshi
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Graham Armfield <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm working with a client whose website uses some complex data tables
>> which
>> will probably require the headers attribute to be used.
>>
>> When I'm testing with JAWS I can use the Ctrl + Alt + Numpad 5 to get
>> orientation information about the cell that I'm currently interacting
>> with.
>>
>> My question is, is there a corresponding keystroke in NVDA? I've tried to
>> find any reference to NVDA table cell information on the web, but without
>> any success so far.
>>
>> If anyone's got any thoughts I'd be most grateful.
>>
>> Thank
>> s
>> Graham Armfield
>>
>>
>>
>> coolfields.co.uk <http://www.coolfields.co.uk/>;
>> M:07905 590026
>> T: 01483 856613
>> @coolfields <https://twitter.com/coolfields>
>> >> >> >> >>
> > > > >
> > > > >


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From: Jim Allan
Date: Mon, May 25 2015 10:19AM
Subject: Re: Table Information in NVDA
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Birkir, l
you are correct. NVDA does not have a cell information key or "tell me
everything about this cell key"
Jim

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> .. in other words, you can navigate within tables but I do not think
> NVDA has a keystroke for speaking all context info for the cell that
> you are currently on.
> Consider that NVDA and Jaws support colspan if scope-'colgroup' for
> headers associated with more than one column, though there is no
> support for the corresponding rowspan/scope="rowgroup" attribute.
>
>
>
> On 5/23/15, Pratik Patel < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Also use control+alt+up and down arrow keys to navigate between rows.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pratik
> >
> >
> >
> > Pratik Patel
> > Founder and CEO, EZFire
> > M: 718-249-7019
> > E: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = (or = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )
> > Follow me on Twitter: @ppatel
> > Follow me on LinkedIn:
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pratik-patel/9/985/882
> > Skype: Patel.pratik
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf
> > Of Devarshi Pant
> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 4:22 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Table Information in NVDA
> >
> > In browse mode (ins + spacebar), navigate the table using Control + Alt +
> > left / right arrow keys. Hope that helps.
> > Thanks,
> > Devarshi
> >
> > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Graham Armfield <
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I'm working with a client whose website uses some complex data tables
> >> which
> >> will probably require the headers attribute to be used.
> >>
> >> When I'm testing with JAWS I can use the Ctrl + Alt + Numpad 5 to get
> >> orientation information about the cell that I'm currently interacting
> >> with.
> >>
> >> My question is, is there a corresponding keystroke in NVDA? I've tried
> to
> >> find any reference to NVDA table cell information on the web, but
> without
> >> any success so far.
> >>
> >> If anyone's got any thoughts I'd be most grateful.
> >>
> >> Thank
> >> s
> >> Graham Armfield
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> coolfields.co.uk <http://www.coolfields.co.uk/>;
> >> M:07905 590026
> >> T: 01483 856613
> >> @coolfields <https://twitter.com/coolfields>
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
>
>
> --
> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > > > >



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From: Moore,Michael (DARS)
Date: Tue, May 26 2015 9:06AM
Subject: Re: Table Information in NVDA
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To my knowledge no screen reader has support for row span. I do not know why

Mike Moore
Accessibility Coordinator,
Texas Department of Assistive and Rehabilitative Services
(512) 424-4159 (Office)
(512) 574-0091 (Cell)

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:32 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Table Information in NVDA

.. in other words, you can navigate within tables but I do not think NVDA has a keystroke for speaking all context info for the cell that you are currently on.
Consider that NVDA and Jaws support colspan if scope-'colgroup' for headers associated with more than one column, though there is no support for the corresponding rowspan/scope="rowgroup" attribute.



On 5/23/15, Pratik Patel < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Also use control+alt+up and down arrow keys to navigate between rows.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pratik
>
>
>
> Pratik Patel
> Founder and CEO, EZFire
> M: 718-249-7019
> E: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = (or = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ) Follow me on Twitter:
> @ppatel Follow me on LinkedIn:
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pratik-patel/9/985/882
> Skype: Patel.pratik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Devarshi Pant
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 4:22 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Table Information in NVDA
>
> In browse mode (ins + spacebar), navigate the table using Control +
> Alt + left / right arrow keys. Hope that helps.
> Thanks,
> Devarshi
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Graham Armfield <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm working with a client whose website uses some complex data tables
>> which will probably require the headers attribute to be used.
>>
>> When I'm testing with JAWS I can use the Ctrl + Alt + Numpad 5 to get
>> orientation information about the cell that I'm currently interacting
>> with.
>>
>> My question is, is there a corresponding keystroke in NVDA? I've
>> tried to find any reference to NVDA table cell information on the
>> web, but without any success so far.
>>
>> If anyone's got any thoughts I'd be most grateful.
>>
>> Thank
>> s
>> Graham Armfield
>>
>>
>>
>> coolfields.co.uk <http://www.coolfields.co.uk/>;
>> M:07905 590026
>> T: 01483 856613
>> @coolfields <https://twitter.com/coolfields>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >


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From: Chagnon | PubCom
Date: Tue, May 26 2015 11:43AM
Subject: Re: Table Information in NVDA
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I think it's because none of their customers are asking for this feature.

Same with reading super/sub scripts correctly, Unicode characters (especially the extended set beyond the standard 256 lower range characters), en-dashes, em-dashes, minus-signs, and a whole lot more.

--Bevi Chagnon

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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Moore,Michael (DARS)
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:07 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Table Information in NVDA

To my knowledge no screen reader has support for row span. I do not know why

Mike Moore
Accessibility Coordinator,
Texas Department of Assistive and Rehabilitative Services
(512) 424-4159 (Office)
(512) 574-0091 (Cell)

From: Pratik Patel
Date: Tue, May 26 2015 11:49AM
Subject: Re: Table Information in NVDA
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The great thing about NVDA is that a feature could be requested or bugs could be reported by anyone and tracked. Both Jamie and Mick will have a conversation with you via the tracker about setting priority for the feature request and other concerns. Here is a link to the NVDA tracker.

http://community.nvda-project.org/wiki/Issues


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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 1:44 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Table Information in NVDA

I think it's because none of their customers are asking for this feature.

Same with reading super/sub scripts correctly, Unicode characters (especially the extended set beyond the standard 256 lower range characters), en-dashes, em-dashes, minus-signs, and a whole lot more.

--Bevi Chagnon

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Moore,Michael (DARS)
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:07 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Table Information in NVDA

To my knowledge no screen reader has support for row span. I do not know why

Mike Moore
Accessibility Coordinator,
Texas Department of Assistive and Rehabilitative Services
(512) 424-4159 (Office)
(512) 574-0091 (Cell)