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From: sucharu
Date: Mon, Feb 01 2016 3:42AM
Subject: accessibility of accessibility checking tools
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Hello All,
Is there some progress in the matter?
Regards,
Sucharu

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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Lucy Greco
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 8:45 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] accessibility of accessibility checking tools

i will defanitly add your name to the list of intrested people

Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces


On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> I would be interested in your results. Currently, neither my company or my
> budget have a space for conferences . But I would love to be involved in
> the processs.
>
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
> > On Dec 22, 2015, at 2:55 PM, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > hello:
> > this is a vary in portent problem we are facing today we need to have
> > access to the tools our peers use to test as blind access
> professionals.
> > we are holding a meeting at CSUN on Thursday morning at 10 about this
> vary
> > topic. a few other blind professionals and my self are wanting to
> start
> > a community that can share tools tips and tricks for other blind users.
> > the listing for the event is called strike of the bats. and will be led
> by
> > my self and Birkir Gunnarsson this meeting will be to talk about how
> best
> > to share information and start creating a library of tools and lessons
> > for blind professionals to use in there #a11y work. Lucy
> >
> >> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Shadi Abou-Zahra < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> W3C/WAI maintains a list of web accessibility evaluation tools:
> >> - http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tools/
> >>
> >> Some tool vendors provide information about the accessibility of their
> >> tools. You can find these tools -- currently only 6 tools -- by using
> the
> >> filter option "Tools providing accessibility information" at the very
> end
> >> of the filter options list.
> >>
> >> Use the "Add your tool" button to provide information about tools that
> you
> >> know about -- as a tool user or tool vendor.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Shadi
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 22.12.2015 06:27, sucharu wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey All,
> >>>
> >>> Good morning!
> >>>
> >>> I want to learn about
> >>>
> >>> 1. Available accessibility evaluating tools accessible for screen
> >>> reader users.
> >>>
> >>> 2. Is there any work around to make "inspect element"
> accessible.
> >>>
> >>> 3. Is there some free tool that can check whole website at one
> go.
> >>>
> >>> 4. Looking for reply.
> >>>
> >>> 5. Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> 6. Sucharu
> >>>
> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
> >> Activity Lead, WAI International Program Office
> >> W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> >>
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lucia Greco
> > Web Accessibility Evangelist
> > IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
> > University of California, Berkeley
> > (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> > http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> > Follow me on twitter @accessaces
> > > > > > > > > > > > >

From: Chaals McCathie Nevile
Date: Mon, Feb 01 2016 10:10AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of accessibility checking tools
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Hi Shadi,

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:43:03 +0100, Shadi Abou-Zahra < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hello,
>
> W3C/WAI maintains a list of web accessibility evaluation tools:
> - http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tools/
>
> Some tool vendors provide information about the accessibility of their
> tools. You can find these tools -- currently only 6 tools -- by using
> the filter option "Tools providing accessibility information" at the
> very end of the filter options list.

Sigh. Of those, ForApp is really unclear if there is any accessibility for
users of the tool, CynthiaSays says rougly "we try to do the right thing,
but it isn't a legal requirement" (it is in some countries folks!), Adobe
proides information - but prefers microtype so small it would fail some
legal requirements for documentation, and NetCentric gives a VPAT.

These are the people who did a *good* job, mind - and they all deserve
kudos for actually providing information. A lot more big names are listed
as "No information provided"…

> Use the "Add your tool" button to provide information about tools that
> you know about -- as a tool user or tool vendor.

And I see there that you accept 3rd-party reports on listed tools. So I
guess we can improve the situation ourselves.

cheers

> Best,
> Shadi
>
>
> On 22.12.2015 06:27, sucharu wrote:
>> Hey All,
>>
>> Good morning!
>>
>> I want to learn about
>>
>> 1. Available accessibility evaluating tools accessible for screen
>> reader users.
>>
>> 2. Is there any work around to make "inspect element" accessible.
>>
>> 3. Is there some free tool that can check whole website at one
>> go.
>>
>> 4. Looking for reply.
>>
>> 5. Thanks,
>>
>> 6. Sucharu
>>
>> >> >> >> >>
>


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Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex
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From: Shadi Abou-Zahra
Date: Tue, Feb 02 2016 7:42AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of accessibility checking tools
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Hi Charles,

On 1.2.2016 18:10, Chaals McCathie Nevile wrote:
> Hi Shadi,
>
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:43:03 +0100, Shadi Abou-Zahra < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> W3C/WAI maintains a list of web accessibility evaluation tools:
>> - http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tools/
>>
>> Some tool vendors provide information about the accessibility of their
>> tools. You can find these tools -- currently only 6 tools -- by using
>> the filter option "Tools providing accessibility information" at the
>> very end of the filter options list.
>
> Sigh. Of those, ForApp is really unclear if there is any accessibility
> for users of the tool, CynthiaSays says rougly "we try to do the right
> thing, but it isn't a legal requirement" (it is in some countries
> folks!), Adobe proides information - but prefers microtype so small it
> would fail some legal requirements for documentation, and NetCentric
> gives a VPAT.
>
> These are the people who did a *good* job, mind - and they all deserve
> kudos for actually providing information. A lot more big names are
> listed as "No information provided"…

This information is provided by the tool vendors. We encourage people to
provide such information about the accessibility of their tools.


>> Use the "Add your tool" button to provide information about tools that
>> you know about -- as a tool user or tool vendor.
>
> And I see there that you accept 3rd-party reports on listed tools. So I
> guess we can improve the situation ourselves.

Yes, please help us. When 3rd-parties send us information, we contact
the vendors to confirm and/or complete it. They can always update it.

Best,
Shadi


> cheers
>
>> Best,
>> Shadi
>>
>>
>> On 22.12.2015 06:27, sucharu wrote:
>>> Hey All,
>>>
>>> Good morning!
>>>
>>> I want to learn about
>>>
>>> 1. Available accessibility evaluating tools accessible for screen
>>> reader users.
>>>
>>> 2. Is there any work around to make "inspect element" accessible.
>>>
>>> 3. Is there some free tool that can check whole website at one
>>> go.
>>>
>>> 4. Looking for reply.
>>>
>>> 5. Thanks,
>>>
>>> 6. Sucharu
>>>
>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
>>
>
>

--
Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
Activity Lead, WAI International Program Office
W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)