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From: Karlen Communications
Date: Thu, Aug 25 2016 8:57AM
Subject: Accessibility Checker - Office 2016 for Mac
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Yes, I've tested it with a few documents. The tagging is the same as in Office for Windows.

Duff - I think the intent in using that method of tagging is to make tagged PDF available from their mobile apps as well. It does use the same specifications as the Windows tagging tools.

Cheers, Karen

Cheers, Karen

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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessibility Checker - Office 2016 for Mac

> > Can the new Word for Mac 2016 finally export tagged PDF files?
> Sadly, not yet (on the desktop). :-(

This link from Microsoft indicates that PDF tagging is available on the Mac version of Word 2016 build 15.23.1 and greater.

https://microsoftaccessibility.uservoice.com/forums/307429-microsoft-accessibility-feedback/suggestions/12427344-help-us-make-accessible-pdfs-from-office-for-mac?tracking_codeÁ3e423465b9dd1bcd09d5787e9b1180

[quoted from link] I am happy to say that this feature is now available in Word 2016 for the MAC in builds 15.23.1 and greater. The currently release does not support any Far East languages or any languages that are Right to Left. However, this is planned to be addressed in the next few updates.

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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Duff Johnson
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessibility Checker - Office 2016 for Mac

> Can the new Word for Mac 2016 finally export tagged PDF files?

Sadly, not yet (on the desktop). :-(

I know, I know…

That said, if you have access to Adobe's online services (which comes with their subscription model for Acrobat), you can upload your well-structured Word file and get back a (reasonably) well-tagged PDF.

Duff.

From: Olaf Drümmer
Date: Thu, Aug 25 2016 9:12AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility Checker - Office 2016 for Mac
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So - how well does it work if one uses custom fonts. Are the fonts uploaded to the online service as well (which I think would be problematic in terms of font licensing etc.)?

> On 25.08.2016, at 16:57, Karlen Communications < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
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> Yes, I've tested it with a few documents. The tagging is the same as in Office for Windows.
>
> Duff - I think the intent in using that method of tagging is to make tagged PDF available from their mobile apps as well. It does use the same specifications as the Windows tagging tools.

Olaf

From: Karlen Communications
Date: Thu, Aug 25 2016 9:21AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility Checker - Office 2016 for Mac
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I don't know. I don't use custom fonts.

Cheers, Karen

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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessibility Checker - Office 2016 for Mac

So - how well does it work if one uses custom fonts. Are the fonts uploaded to the online service as well (which I think would be problematic in terms of font licensing etc.)?

> On 25.08.2016, at 16:57, Karlen Communications < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Yes, I've tested it with a few documents. The tagging is the same as in Office for Windows.
>
> Duff - I think the intent in using that method of tagging is to make tagged PDF available from their mobile apps as well. It does use the same specifications as the Windows tagging tools.

Olaf

From: Whitney Quesenbery
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2016 2:34PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility Checker - Office 2016 for Mac
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Karen, It hasn't been my experience that it works just fine.

The checker works beautifully - so we know that they know how to read their
own files and can tell if they have the accessiblity features needed.

But as happy as I am to see the first steps being taken, testing it out has
been really disappointing. Until I got support from the Microsoft team, all
I could produce were untagged documents. It turned out that:

1. You have to remove all Asian fonts and right-to-left from your MAC OS
System Preferences (!), and you have to remove any right-to-left keyboards.

2. You have to choose the "not as good for printing, and uses our online
service"

3. The online service did take a relatively simple file and create civil
tagging, but my font disappeared, so it changed the pagination.

The first is just silly. It's 2016. I work on a global UX magazine with
translations. The election officials I work with are legally required so
support language - from NY to CA, this often includes Asian languages.

And where is the documentation or warnings?

The second is insane. It means that I can't use this for any sensitive or
private documents. I have no idea what ownership they might assert over
them, or what happens to them on their server.

And where is the documentation? (There is a warning)

The third makes this useless. First, because it's 2016 and we've been using
fonts since about 1990. Second, because it what I want is a file that I can
use to print from, and then post for online access, it means that each and
every single file has to be created twice. My fonts aren't "custom" - they
just aren't part of the Microsoft set.

Where is the list of acceptable fonts?

That might not sound so bad until you think about a context in which even a
small county might produce 85-100 variations of a voter guide (based on
districting), that the material legally has to be the same, and has to be
completed in a very very short calendar window.

I applaud the baby step.

I don't think it's right that this is so flawed and being loosed on the
world without warnings (I got it out of the box when I purchased the update
to 2016).

I'm glad I was just testing, or I'd have been tearing my hair out trying to
figure out why it didn't work.

I'd like to know what the schedule is for bringing this up to the same
standard as the PDF output for Windows.

Whitney


On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:21 AM Karlen Communications <
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> I don't know. I don't use custom fonts.
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> Cheers, Karen
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> Sent: August 25, 2016 11:12 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessibility Checker - Office 2016 for Mac
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> So - how well does it work if one uses custom fonts. Are the fonts
> uploaded to the online service as well (which I think would be problematic
> in terms of font licensing etc.)?
>
> > On 25.08.2016, at 16:57, Karlen Communications <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I've tested it with a few documents. The tagging is the same as in
> Office for Windows.
> >
> > Duff - I think the intent in using that method of tagging is to make
> tagged PDF available from their mobile apps as well. It does use the same
> specifications as the Windows tagging tools.
>
> Olaf
>
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
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