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From: Angela French
Date: Thu, Dec 21 2017 1:10PM
Subject: WCAG 2.0 1.4.4 relating to form elements
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Hello,
I'm curious: is there a way to dynamically change the size of form elements based on the zoom level a person is using in their browser? Is there even a way to programmatically assess what zoom a person is using.
This questions is based on an app we just had evaluated for accessibility that received a ding (WCAG 2.0 1.4.4) because a particularly long value in a drop down choice was truncated in the form field (not all viewable) after the select was made. The browser DOES make the drop down list wide enough to view the selection list when the drop down list is opened. This feels more like a usability issue to me and not an accessibility issue per se - something I imagine 200+ zoom level users probably frequently encounter.
Opinions please.
Angela French
Internet/Intranet Specialist
Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
360-704-4316
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From: Steve Green
Date: Thu, Dec 21 2017 4:08PM
Subject: Re: WCAG 2.0 1.4.4 relating to form elements
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This doesn't sound like a non-compliance to me. The form control itself is not being truncated and its contents are not truncated when it is open.
As far as I am aware it is not possible to programmatically identify the zoom level. Even if it was, any attempted fix based on doing so sounds like it would be really horrible and unlikely to work under all circumstances.
Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd
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Subject: [WebAIM] WCAG 2.0 1.4.4 relating to form elements
Hello,
I'm curious: is there a way to dynamically change the size of form elements based on the zoom level a person is using in their browser? Is there even a way to programmatically assess what zoom a person is using.
This questions is based on an app we just had evaluated for accessibility that received a ding (WCAG 2.0 1.4.4) because a particularly long value in a drop down choice was truncated in the form field (not all viewable) after the select was made. The browser DOES make the drop down list wide enough to view the selection list when the drop down list is opened. This feels more like a usability issue to me and not an accessibility issue per se - something I imagine 200+ zoom level users probably frequently encounter.
Opinions please.
Angela French
Internet/Intranet Specialist
Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
360-704-4316
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www.sbctc.edu<;http://www.sbctc.edu/>;
From: Angela French
Date: Thu, Dec 21 2017 4:10PM
Subject: Re: WCAG 2.0 1.4.4 relating to form elements
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My sentiments exactly!
Angela French
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Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 3:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] WCAG 2.0 1.4.4 relating to form elements
This doesn't sound like a non-compliance to me. The form control itself is not being truncated and its contents are not truncated when it is open.
As far as I am aware it is not possible to programmatically identify the zoom level. Even if it was, any attempted fix based on doing so sounds like it would be really horrible and unlikely to work under all circumstances.
Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd
-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Angela French
Sent: 21 December 2017 20:10
To: WebAim Forum ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ) < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: [WebAIM] WCAG 2.0 1.4.4 relating to form elements
Hello,
I'm curious: is there a way to dynamically change the size of form elements based on the zoom level a person is using in their browser? Is there even a way to programmatically assess what zoom a person is using.
This questions is based on an app we just had evaluated for accessibility that received a ding (WCAG 2.0 1.4.4) because a particularly long value in a drop down choice was truncated in the form field (not all viewable) after the select was made. The browser DOES make the drop down list wide enough to view the selection list when the drop down list is opened. This feels more like a usability issue to me and not an accessibility issue per se - something I imagine 200+ zoom level users probably frequently encounter.
Opinions please.
Angela French
Internet/Intranet Specialist
Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
360-704-4316
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
www.sbctc.edu<;http://www.sbctc.edu/>;