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From: Jim Homme
Date: Mon, Sep 17 2018 12:17PM
Subject: Edit Box Brain Freeze
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Hi,
I have not seen this for a while. I want to fail this, but maybe cannot. We have an edit box. It has a meaningful label. When focus goes onto the edit box, the box contains a default value. If you type characters, the default value disappears. If you press arrows or other navigation keys, the default value stays there, but is now unselected. This could cause the user to enter something else and accidentally keep the default value. Which success criterion does this fail?

Thanks.

Jim



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From: glen walker
Date: Mon, Sep 17 2018 1:08PM
Subject: Re: Edit Box Brain Freeze
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To me this just falls under a bad UX for everyone and not specific to
accessibility.

Glen

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:17 PM Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi,
> I have not seen this for a while. I want to fail this, but maybe cannot.
> We have an edit box. It has a meaningful label. When focus goes onto the
> edit box, the box contains a default value. If you type characters, the
> default value disappears. If you press arrows or other navigation keys, the
> default value stays there, but is now unselected. This could cause the user
> to enter something else and accidentally keep the default value. Which
> success criterion does this fail?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> ==========
> Jim Homme
> Product Manager
> Digital Accessibility
> Bender Consulting Services
> 412-787-8567
>
> https://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions
> People with disabilities, access job openings at
> https://www.benderconsult.com/careers/job-openings
>
>
> > > > >

From: Isabel Holdsworth
Date: Tue, Sep 18 2018 5:19AM
Subject: Re: Edit Box Brain Freeze
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Sadly I agree. Could you make it a recommendation and ask them to use
a placeholder attribute instead? I usually add a recommendations
section at the end of my reports, saying that although these issues
aren't technically WCAG fails, they are likely to present serious
barriers for some users blah blah blah.

On 17/09/2018, glen walker < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> To me this just falls under a bad UX for everyone and not specific to
> accessibility.
>
> Glen
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:17 PM Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I have not seen this for a while. I want to fail this, but maybe cannot.
>> We have an edit box. It has a meaningful label. When focus goes onto the
>> edit box, the box contains a default value. If you type characters, the
>> default value disappears. If you press arrows or other navigation keys,
>> the
>> default value stays there, but is now unselected. This could cause the
>> user
>> to enter something else and accidentally keep the default value. Which
>> success criterion does this fail?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> ==========
>> Jim Homme
>> Product Manager
>> Digital Accessibility
>> Bender Consulting Services
>> 412-787-8567
>>
>> https://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions
>> People with disabilities, access job openings at
>> https://www.benderconsult.com/careers/job-openings
>>
>>
>> >> >> >> >>
> > > > >

From: Meacham, Steve - FSA, Kansas City, MO
Date: Tue, Sep 18 2018 5:35AM
Subject: Re: Edit Box Brain Freeze
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When the WCAG failed to anticipate a scenario in a success criteria, I often cite a principle or guideline.

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From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Isabel Holdsworth
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:19 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Edit Box Brain Freeze

Sadly I agree. Could you make it a recommendation and ask them to use a placeholder attribute instead? I usually add a recommendations section at the end of my reports, saying that although these issues aren't technically WCAG fails, they are likely to present serious barriers for some users blah blah blah.

On 17/09/2018, glen walker < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> To me this just falls under a bad UX for everyone and not specific to
> accessibility.
>
> Glen
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:17 PM Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I have not seen this for a while. I want to fail this, but maybe cannot.
>> We have an edit box. It has a meaningful label. When focus goes onto
>> the edit box, the box contains a default value. If you type
>> characters, the default value disappears. If you press arrows or
>> other navigation keys, the default value stays there, but is now
>> unselected. This could cause the user to enter something else and
>> accidentally keep the default value. Which success criterion does
>> this fail?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> ==========
>> Jim Homme
>> Product Manager
>> Digital Accessibility
>> Bender Consulting Services
>> 412-787-8567
>>
>> https://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-tech
>> nology-solutions People with disabilities, access job openings at
>> https://www.benderconsult.com/careers/job-openings
>>
>>
>> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
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From: Mohith BP
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2018 5:43AM
Subject: Re: Edit Box Brain Freeze
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Hi Jim,

Is it not the default expected behavior for any edit box? or am I
missing something.

Thanks & Regards,
Mohith B. P.

On 9/17/18, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi,
> I have not seen this for a while. I want to fail this, but maybe cannot. We
> have an edit box. It has a meaningful label. When focus goes onto the edit
> box, the box contains a default value. If you type characters, the default
> value disappears. If you press arrows or other navigation keys, the default
> value stays there, but is now unselected. This could cause the user to enter
> something else and accidentally keep the default value. Which success
> criterion does this fail?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> ==========
> Jim Homme
> Product Manager
> Digital Accessibility
> Bender Consulting Services
> 412-787-8567
> https://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions
> People with disabilities, access job openings at
> https://www.benderconsult.com/careers/job-openings
>
>
> > > > >