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From: Greenfield, Mark
Date: Tue, Apr 16 2019 7:25PM
Subject: Powerpoint 2019 Accessibility Checker
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I created my first PowerPoint presentation using PowerPoint 2019. There are some images that I have marked as "decorative". (I was very happy to see this feature added to PowerPoint 2019.)
When I run the Accessibility Checker in PowerPoint 2019, there are no errors. But when I run the Accessibility Checker in PowerPoint 2016, this images are flagged for not having alt text. My question is which accessibility check to believe. I'm assuming the 2019 version, but I wanted to reach out to this group for their thoughts.
Thanks,
Mark
Mark A. Greenfield
Web Accessibility Officer
Office of Equity, Diversity and Inclusion
416 Capen Hall
State University of New York at Buffalo
Buffalo, N.Y. 14260
telephone: (716)645-2811
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From: L Snider
Date: Tue, Apr 16 2019 8:32PM
Subject: Re: Powerpoint 2019 Accessibility Checker
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Hi Mark,
As you noted, 2016 is an older checker and in my experience on Mac and
PC, it will throw errors. Go with the 2019 version, as this checker
will be the one going forward.
One note, in my experience (others may not have it and I haven't tried
this on the absolute newest update) on both Mac and PC, when I convert
to PDF the decorative throws errors as no alt text. Basically just
double check it to make sure, if you convert to PDF.
I need to try this on the newest update to Acrobat Pro on both Mac and
PC, as this may have been fixed in Acrobat.
Cheers
Lisa
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 8:25 PM Greenfield, Mark < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> I created my first PowerPoint presentation using PowerPoint 2019. There are some images that I have marked as "decorative". (I was very happy to see this feature added to PowerPoint 2019.)
>
> When I run the Accessibility Checker in PowerPoint 2019, there are no errors. But when I run the Accessibility Checker in PowerPoint 2016, this images are flagged for not having alt text. My question is which accessibility check to believe. I'm assuming the 2019 version, but I wanted to reach out to this group for their thoughts.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> Mark A. Greenfield
> Web Accessibility Officer
> Office of Equity, Diversity and Inclusion
> 416 Capen Hall
> State University of New York at Buffalo
> Buffalo, N.Y. 14260
> telephone: (716)645-2811
> e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>
> > > >
From: Karlen Communications
Date: Wed, Apr 17 2019 5:48AM
Subject: Re: POWERPOINT 2019 Accessibility Checker
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Yes, if you use the new tools like Mark as Decorative, they are not backward
compatible. If you are using them, you/your department/organization should
decide which version you check against if you mandate a clean accessibility
check. As the standards change (WCAG and PDF/UA), there will be changes to
all of the automated the accessibility checkers.
I've used the Mark as Decorative with both the Microsoft ability to save as
a tagged PDF and Adobe Acrobat Pro DC all updates installed and if you mark
an image as decorative in Office, it is an Artifact in the tagged PDF
document.
Cheers, Karen
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Snider
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:33 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Powerpoint 2019 Accessibility Checker
Hi Mark,
As you noted, 2016 is an older checker and in my experience on Mac and PC,
it will throw errors. Go with the 2019 version, as this checker will be the
one going forward.
One note, in my experience (others may not have it and I haven't tried this
on the absolute newest update) on both Mac and PC, when I convert to PDF the
decorative throws errors as no alt text. Basically just double check it to
make sure, if you convert to PDF.
I need to try this on the newest update to Acrobat Pro on both Mac and PC,
as this may have been fixed in Acrobat.
Cheers
Lisa
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 8:25 PM Greenfield, Mark < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> I created my first PowerPoint presentation using PowerPoint 2019.
> There are some images that I have marked as "decorative". (I was very
> happy to see this feature added to PowerPoint 2019.)
>
> When I run the Accessibility Checker in PowerPoint 2019, there are no
errors. But when I run the Accessibility Checker in PowerPoint 2016, this
images are flagged for not having alt text. My question is which
accessibility check to believe. I'm assuming the 2019 version, but I wanted
to reach out to this group for their thoughts.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> Mark A. Greenfield
> Web Accessibility Officer
> Office of Equity, Diversity and Inclusion
> 416 Capen Hall
> State University of New York at Buffalo Buffalo, N.Y. 14260
> telephone: (716)645-2811
> e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
From: L Snider
Date: Wed, Apr 17 2019 6:57AM
Subject: Re: POWERPOINT 2019 Accessibility Checker
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Hi Karen,
Just confirmed with the latest Word and Acrobat Pro updates that this
is still an issue on Mac. The decorative does not transfer to the PDF
using the cloud conversion to the PDF (only way to get tags).
I really wish Adobe would make their Mac products better, it is 2019
and that Word feature has been in there for over a year.
Cheers
Lisa
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:48 AM Karlen Communications
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Yes, if you use the new tools like Mark as Decorative, they are not backward
> compatible. If you are using them, you/your department/organization should
> decide which version you check against if you mandate a clean accessibility
> check. As the standards change (WCAG and PDF/UA), there will be changes to
> all of the automated the accessibility checkers.
>
> I've used the Mark as Decorative with both the Microsoft ability to save as
> a tagged PDF and Adobe Acrobat Pro DC all updates installed and if you mark
> an image as decorative in Office, it is an Artifact in the tagged PDF
> document.
>
> Cheers, Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of L
> Snider
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:33 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Powerpoint 2019 Accessibility Checker
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> As you noted, 2016 is an older checker and in my experience on Mac and PC,
> it will throw errors. Go with the 2019 version, as this checker will be the
> one going forward.
>
> One note, in my experience (others may not have it and I haven't tried this
> on the absolute newest update) on both Mac and PC, when I convert to PDF the
> decorative throws errors as no alt text. Basically just double check it to
> make sure, if you convert to PDF.
>
> I need to try this on the newest update to Acrobat Pro on both Mac and PC,
> as this may have been fixed in Acrobat.
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 8:25 PM Greenfield, Mark < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > I created my first PowerPoint presentation using PowerPoint 2019.
> > There are some images that I have marked as "decorative". (I was very
> > happy to see this feature added to PowerPoint 2019.)
> >
> > When I run the Accessibility Checker in PowerPoint 2019, there are no
> errors. But when I run the Accessibility Checker in PowerPoint 2016, this
> images are flagged for not having alt text. My question is which
> accessibility check to believe. I'm assuming the 2019 version, but I wanted
> to reach out to this group for their thoughts.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Mark A. Greenfield
> > Web Accessibility Officer
> > Office of Equity, Diversity and Inclusion
> > 416 Capen Hall
> > State University of New York at Buffalo Buffalo, N.Y. 14260
> > telephone: (716)645-2811
> > e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > >
From: Karlen Communications
Date: Wed, Apr 17 2019 7:37AM
Subject: Re: POWERPOINT 2019 Accessibility Checker
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Thanks for the confirmation. I forgot to say I'm on windows.
Cheers, Karen
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Snider
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 8:57 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] POWERPOINT 2019 Accessibility Checker
Hi Karen,
Just confirmed with the latest Word and Acrobat Pro updates that this is
still an issue on Mac. The decorative does not transfer to the PDF using the
cloud conversion to the PDF (only way to get tags).
I really wish Adobe would make their Mac products better, it is 2019 and
that Word feature has been in there for over a year.
Cheers
Lisa
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:48 AM Karlen Communications
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Yes, if you use the new tools like Mark as Decorative, they are not
> backward compatible. If you are using them, you/your
> department/organization should decide which version you check against
> if you mandate a clean accessibility check. As the standards change
> (WCAG and PDF/UA), there will be changes to all of the automated the
accessibility checkers.
>
> I've used the Mark as Decorative with both the Microsoft ability to
> save as a tagged PDF and Adobe Acrobat Pro DC all updates installed
> and if you mark an image as decorative in Office, it is an Artifact in
> the tagged PDF document.
>
> Cheers, Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of
> L Snider
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:33 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Powerpoint 2019 Accessibility Checker
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> As you noted, 2016 is an older checker and in my experience on Mac and
> PC, it will throw errors. Go with the 2019 version, as this checker
> will be the one going forward.
>
> One note, in my experience (others may not have it and I haven't tried
> this on the absolute newest update) on both Mac and PC, when I convert
> to PDF the decorative throws errors as no alt text. Basically just
> double check it to make sure, if you convert to PDF.
>
> I need to try this on the newest update to Acrobat Pro on both Mac and
> PC, as this may have been fixed in Acrobat.
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 8:25 PM Greenfield, Mark < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
> >
> > I created my first PowerPoint presentation using PowerPoint 2019.
> > There are some images that I have marked as "decorative". (I was
> > very happy to see this feature added to PowerPoint 2019.)
> >
> > When I run the Accessibility Checker in PowerPoint 2019, there are
> > no
> errors. But when I run the Accessibility Checker in PowerPoint 2016,
> this images are flagged for not having alt text. My question is which
> accessibility check to believe. I'm assuming the 2019 version, but I
> wanted to reach out to this group for their thoughts.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Mark A. Greenfield
> > Web Accessibility Officer
> > Office of Equity, Diversity and Inclusion
> > 416 Capen Hall
> > State University of New York at Buffalo Buffalo, N.Y. 14260
> > telephone: (716)645-2811
> > e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> http://webaim.org/discussion/archives